otherrandomhero Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Indeed. I intend to put an M90 in with a lipo and a good re-lubing. If I can get 1200 RPM I'll be happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sekiryu Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 That's a horrendously stupid comparison. The M60 fired an incredibly powerful cardridge, and therefore didn't need to be able to shoot really fast. Â Bullet power is irrelevant, since in the support role you generally don't hit anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otherrandomhero Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Bullet power is irrelevant, since in the support role in airsoft you generally don't hit anything. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fixed. In real wars support gunners mow down soldiers like nobody's business. M2HB anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hustie Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Bullet power is irrelevant, since in the support role you generally don't hit anything. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I might be wrong but in real armies aren't so called 'support' weapons actually the main offensive weapon of a squad/platoon/whatever? Thus don't they do most of the 'business' in firefights. Also a greater power bullet will for the most part have greater penetrating power for the most part, ie going through building, cover, and such forth. off topicness, my bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gu5t Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 but when you put a less powerful spring in surely that will then increase ROF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ardrummer292 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 but when you put a less powerful spring in surely that will then increase ROF. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  If you fix the airseal problem as well, you won't lose a single fps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Which version is used by the British Army & is there a version both the US & Brit Armies use?I want the Para version but i'm just about to start checking the web to see if it's compatable with a Brit loadout! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RSM Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 If I recall correctly, we use the para version with the heat cover removed at the moment. Back in 1991 SAS patrols were issued with the Mk.1 variant with the wire stock, not too sure if back then regular infantry used anything other than the L85/L86/GPMG Â Apparently M4 type nunchuck packs should fit into the foregrip of the gun so you should be able to get enough rounds out the battery if you do use a Para/Mk.1 unless you do some really heavy support gunning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Back in 91 we only had the L85,LSW & GIMPY.I came out round then but i never got my hands on a SAW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
48thRonin Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 para Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) Which version is used by the British Army & is there a version both the US & Brit Armies use?I want the Para version but i'm just about to start checking the web to see if it's compatable with a Brit loadout! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â The in service Minimi with the British Army is an off the shelf Para model bought direct from Fabrique Nationale so it has the Mk1 style foregrip, no heat shield and if it has a rail fitted to the feed cover at all it is a dove tail to take a SUSAT or a raised mount to allow the Common Weapon Sight to be fitted. UK nomenclature is the L110A1. Â The original "Mk1" Minimi as used by UKSF in the 1991 Gulf War is termed the L108A1. Â Like yourself I was originally going to plump for the Para model but I've since decided I want a "full size" LMG so I've pre-ordered the Mk1. I'm thinking it may perhaps be a good idea if lots of us badger A&K via the dealers to release all the various stocks and barrel assemblies as stand alone accessories eventually. If I had a Para barrel, para stock and gearbox with vented cylinder to swap over on my Mk1 I'd be ten minutes away from an L110A1 whenever I wanted. Â Just a thought anyway! Â British Army webpage for the 5.56mm Minimi Light Machine Gun Edited August 30, 2007 by Tarnish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sekiryu Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) And for anyone wondering--the Japanese use the Mk1 with a heatshield attached. Â I think the Australians use the plain Mk1, maybe with a railed cover. Edited August 30, 2007 by sekiryu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thanks to everyone for the links & the info.I think my Para is going to be keeping it's heat shield & stay a US version for now.I'm sure that at a future date there are going to be spare parts avialable including the MRK1 foregrip to buy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) And for anyone wondering--the Japanese use the Mk1 with a heatshield attached. I think the Australians use the plain Mk1, maybe with a railed cover. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  On a similar note the current FN Herstal production Minimi has the solid "Mk2" stock and folding carrying handle but still has the "Mk1" foregrip, no heatshield and "Mk1" style flash hider. There are so many slight variations between all the different nations that I reckon just about any incarnation you could come up with would be right somewhere along the line.   FN Herstal homepage Edited August 30, 2007 by Tarnish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob the Angry Potato Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Bullet power is irrelevant, since in the support role you generally don't hit anything. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Untrue. M60s tend to have insane amounts of firepower, and with the SF tripod kit (I've used M60s without them, and they're not exactly the most accurate without it yet they get the job done fairly well), you can hit targets up to 1800 metres out. Â Mind you, you wouldn't be able to see them clearly- a number is given, usually predetermined on an exact spot based on the position of a tripflare or a killzone, and you'd let 'er rip into that specific area when given the order. Â Quite effective. Â Also, M249s account for a very, very high proportion of a section's firepower. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 In regards to the airseal issue, I have noticed on the CA249 Mk2 and the para version, when upgraded with a spring that is supposed to rate above 450fps it loses power. I had a 500fps spring in a Mk2 and it only chronoed 412fps, same goes with a Para that I worked on. Â So the airseal issue may not be anything new really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I'm sure that at a future date there are going to be spare parts available including the MRK1 foregrip to buy? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â My plan for the Para if I'd ordered one was to get some CA Mk1 grip panels from UN Company, I'm sure even if they need a little work that they'll fit eventually. Â Mk1 Grips at UN Company Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joeshred Posted August 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 gearbox pics  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
infected Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Do you have a pic of the inside of the gearbox with the internals in it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R1200RT Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 OK just a quickie - the rof on the video was because the battery was indeed going flat - the explanation was on another forum. Â Off topic - rof is too slow? Are you really NOT going to duck cos there are ONLY 400 rounds/min coming at you? Love to meet you on the battlefield........ Â And I've pre ordered my Mk1. Had the STAR pile of poo and the CA is waaay to expensive (I could insure my bike for 3 years on the cost of a CA, and I dont have a small bike) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) Thanks for the pics joeshred, it's looking pretty good to me. Not wanting to wish time away but I am rather looking forward for the next three and a half weeks to pass and I get my Mk1 in my grubby little paws. Â Edited August 31, 2007 by Tarnish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carbine Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 The GB is definitely a cast copy of the CA and looks decent. Definitely not up to PGC's machined version though  Dedpending on how these are cast and how many bubbles are left in the finished product, I would suspect we'll see a few of these cracking in a year or so as more people upgrade their A&Ks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarnish Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) I'm hopeful the reverse will be true for those of us in the UK reducing the power to 1 joule and eventually fitting higher grade parts. Still there's always the option if possible of fitting a CA gearbox, again UN Company have them in stock for both front and rear wired versions. Edited August 31, 2007 by Tarnish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwatMP5man Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 The GB is definitely a cast copy of the CA and looks decent. Definitely not up to PGC's machined version though Dedpending on how these are cast and how many bubbles are left in the finished product, I would suspect we'll see a few of these cracking in a year or so as more Americans upgrade their A&Ks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Fixed  If this is coming out at 420 fps i cant see many people actually wanting more power. If i do get one then i'll be downgrading it to 350fps or so, that way it aint too powerful and the GB is under less stress and strain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supportgunner Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 If it really ends up functioning like an upgraded CA with a railed feed cover, I might be interested... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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