Jagdraben Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 You noticed the only guys who used AR15s were the Colonel's guard the rest were using AKs and G3s like the enemy would use. Yes, but the R5 would probably be easier to find in Africa than AR-15s. And I'm pretty sure that the rest of the mercs were indigenous personnel. Also the Mi-24 (known to the NATO world as a Hind) was used extensively to support the ground troops and Dakka Dak is Afrikaans slang for attack helicopter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You learn something new everyday. I had figured that it was some sort of local (or Rhodesian- or South African military) slang for an attack helo, didn't know it was Afrikaans. Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Has anyone attempted a Tom Clancy-style Über-Merc without looking like your standard Supersniperdeltaforcespecialforcesmarinecorps guy? Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 You mean... like the mercs in GRAW2? Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber Soldier Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I would say the rest of the mercs were SA too. EO recruited almost exclusively from the SADF, this way they could be sure of the same level of training and use Afrikaans as a combat language. Afrikaans is a very difficult language to penetrate so there was no need to use code in radio comms. Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 You mean... like the mercs in GRAW2? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I think I know what you mean (played the game forever ago). If you haven't played: It's a standard-21st century style black gear, G3 toting, helmet and balaclava wearing merc. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 As I remember it, they had Desert DPM shirts and blue jeans... armed with MR-Cs, G36Ks, HK21Es, AK-47s, &c. Don't recall headgear, LBE, or much else. Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 OHHH, I was thinking R6 Black Arrow. Yeah, that seems more like it. Link to post Share on other sites
pjones Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Yes, but the R5 would probably be easier to find in Africa than AR-15s. And I'm pretty sure that the rest of the mercs were indigenous personnel. You learn something new everyday. I had figured that it was some sort of local (or Rhodesian- or South African military) slang for an attack helo, didn't know it was Afrikaans. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dak-dak is Rhodesian slang for a DC-3 "Dakota," not an attack helicopter. Afrikaans is a very difficult language to penetrate so there was no need to use code in radio comms. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not really. It takes a lot of its vocabulary from English and uses almost completely regular verb conjugation (Ek is, jy is, sy is, ons is, julle is - I am, you are, she is, we are, y'all are). Hearing it spoken can be initially difficult, but no more difficult than hearing native speakers of any other language. Link to post Share on other sites
nilz Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 <OT> A lot of it's pronunciation and part of it's vocabulary have Dutch origins. If you can speak both English and Dutch, Afrikaans is fairly easy to understand, very similar to arcane Dutch with some English. f.e. ek -> ik, jy -> jij, sij -> zij, julle -> jullie. ons -> wij, but 'ons' in Dutch is the word for 'ours', so still very close. </OT> Link to post Share on other sites
pjones Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 <OT> A lot of it's pronunciation and part of it's vocabulary have Dutch origins. If you can speak both English and Dutch, Afrikaans is fairly easy to understand, very similar to arcane Dutch with some English. f.e. ek -> ik, jy -> jij, sij -> zij, julle -> jullie. ons -> wij, but 'ons' in Dutch is the word for 'ours', so still very close. </OT> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I get the impression that if I tried to speak Afrikaans in the Netherlands, I'd sound like the Dutch equivalent of a hillbilly. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Dak-dak is Rhodesian slang for a DC-3 "Dakota," not an attack helicopter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Too bad he said 'Dakka-dak', not 'Dak-dak.' Link to post Share on other sites
nilz Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Yeah, I get the impression that if I tried to speak Afrikaans in the Netherlands, I'd sound like the Dutch equivalent of a hillbilly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not really, they sound quite differently. Actually, quite a few people would probably recognize the Afrikaans. The people not familiar with the language would likely think you are a foreigner with a really bad accent When spoken slowly, I'd wager 90% of Dutch people would understand you for the most part, the remaining 10% will be so deep into their own dialect, they can barely understand (and be understood by) the rest of the country Link to post Share on other sites
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