jonarthur Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 hey .. so after seeing a awsome pic of some uk special forces guy on here i really want to have ago at geting a uksf look together. ive just had a look at the uksf page in the AI mag but it wasent much help.... all i need is a genral guide on what guns and gear to have . at the moment im feeling : m4a1 ris with acog scope ( sprayed ) OR AK47 ? deset dpm combats some kind of ciras OR somekind of plate carrier with a recon style rack has anyone got any ideas on what kit to have ? anyone got any pics of either themselfs trying a uksf kit or REAL pics of uksf ? cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 dude what happened to our multicam team ? Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 UKSF with a CIRAS? Not likely. Generally it's just Ops Vests. http://www.konstipation.com/stuff/walt/sbs/afghan/ Bunch of photos of SBS in Afghanistan. Also, to be supercoolmilsimexact, UKSF do not use M4A1's, and use Colt Canada C8 SFW's. However, they're very much alike, so you can get away with an M4A1. Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 SAS, SBS use mostly the same kit as the normal squaddie, theres little difference in loadouts, just get some dessie 95's, an assault vest and a body armour cover such as the osprey (dont put pouches on the vest) then a jungle hat and your done. Link to post Share on other sites
jonarthur Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 zack ... dont worry im still a mc ###### ! its sometimes its nice to travel light to and from games .. its a pain luggin all that kit upto london .. cool cats about the m4-c8 ... ill be getting a cheapsoft m4 so i wont have any trades anyway ... looking at those pics .. nealy all of them dont wear dpm shirts .. looking at it they are wearing hiking jackets or something .. im now feeling this : c8 sprayed up deset dpm trousers some kind of hikeing jacket in OD or tan either normal dpm webing OR osprey cover with recon style mag rack over the top shamagh ( that spelt right ? ) nomex gloves in tan somekind of jungle hat or hiking hat . i want to making it as lowdrag highspeed as posible so i think i might go for the webing insted of the vest and rack... do the UK have contractors and pmc guys like the US ? im not a mister know it all when it comes to stuff like that ..... OWW OWW qwick one ... deset US tiger stripe any good ???? Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Look at pictures and base the gear of that, not to mention the numerous topics (or is it just one big one, I can't remember) which discuss this whole thing. Its not like Airsofters are privy to infomation you can't have, some people might have the odd new photo or read a book, but most of it is milphotos, google and the usual britkit/camping shops. Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 OWW OWW qwick one ... deset US tiger stripe any good ???? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Any good for what? Look at the pictures, the only camouflage you will see them wearing is DPM If you want to create your own image that's awesome but there's no point in asking for advice on impressions i want to making it as lowdrag highspeed as posible <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's an American slogan (well reversed anyway), you're just not getting into the hardman SAS spirit of things are you Link to post Share on other sites
BigD_SealTeamXXL Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 the UK have contractors im reading a book about a guy from spartan atm so if your down electrowerkz on tuesday you can have a lookie Link to post Share on other sites
Grumman Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 UK SF have been known to use SA80s also in the desert in limited quantities. If you choose to use one you can then also swap your loadout more easily to that of a regular soldier. However you're more likely to be recognised as 'SF' if you use the C8. Look in the Airsoft News part of this forum. A company is releasing the outer barrel set to turn your M4 into a C8. Link to post Share on other sites
morpcat Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 They primarily use the Diemacos (also remember a squad will have mixed in minimis and GPMGs), but in terms of kit, they try to keep it simple and stick to what a normal squaddie would wear. The last thing they want to do is stand out and be branded as SF. Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 If you want to create your own image that's awesome but there's no point in asking for advice on impressions <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There's far too much of that going on if you ask me. People asking what a load out is and then changing it completely to suit themselves, whilst still maintaining its a proper sf load out. The best thing to do for a proper british sf loadout IMO is to wear something along the lines of british kit, in a more casual and informal way, that suits you. If its not stupidly expensive I'm sure they'll be some sf trooper out there using it. Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 by the way US ACU trousers wouldn't be out of place if your doing Afghan/SAS loadouts ! However Northface jackets and the SAS windprooof smock are usually the choice for the top half. PWL/PE holsters if you must wear a leg holster but normally the internal holster of the British OPs vest is used for the sidearm (sig P226 usually) Shemaghs are great for the look and the latest issue gloves with Magnum,Oakley SI or Adidas GSG9 boots. The Colt Canada C8SFW would be ideal or a Minimi with 100rnd box mag although it is certainly not unknown for G3,FAL or HK53s to be taken either Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Magnum,Oakley SI or Adidas GSG9 boots.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do you actually have any references for this or is it just another case of looking cool with designer kit? Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 From what I've read, and if I'm remembering correctly, a bunch of the SBS lads going to Afghanistan bought Matterhorns, or high quality civilian hiking boots due to issue boots being rubbish. Also remember something about buying Lowas, but again can't remember for sure. Most of the kit they used is simply civilian hiking kit, with a Ops Vest thrown over the top, and Desert DPM trousers. Also, bergens were all civilian hiking models due to the fact that the issue one kills your back. //Edit: And no, Desert Tiger Stripe would not fit at all. While UKSF is well known for stealing from yanks, Desert Tiger Stripe seems to be a rather rare thing in the US Military, and I've only seen it worn by Navy Seals and (apparently) Delta. UK SF have been known to use SA80s also in the desert in limited quantities. If you choose to use one you can then also swap your loadout more easily to that of a regular soldier. However you're more likely to be recognised as 'SF' if you use the C8. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not much anymore, most recent photo I've seen of UKSF using SA80's was from the 1991. Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 nope I hate designer skirmish kit ! personally i'm still stuck to my Magnums (as i have been for the last 17 years) but the Regiment have had the tendancy to issue the Adidas boots to the teams on UK rotation so naturally they find their way onto other jobs afterwards. The Oakley's are just popular among some of the guy's asa private purhase when on team jobs and again often get worn rotation. And yes I do have referances for this Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnar27 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 the UK have contractors im reading a book about a guy from spartan atm so if your down electrowerkz on tuesday you can have a lookie <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Making a Killing? Awesome book. Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 do the UK have contractors and pmc guys like the US ? im not a mister know it all when it comes to stuff like that ..... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The early PMCs were generally British and South African. Link to post Share on other sites
BigD_SealTeamXXL Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Making a Killing? Awesome book. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yep Link to post Share on other sites
darkchild130 Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Without breaking any opsec, this is an Iraq sf loadout Ach helmet with firefly on rear, all sprayed up generic level III body armour any load bearing equipment you want tri colour combats any kneepads any good boots (meindls, altbergs, lowas etc) suppressed cqb varient c8 with all manner of classified addons i have also seen grenade launchers, sawn off shotguns, cut down g3s, rpd, pkm. sig p226 in a 2004 holster, also sprayed up. Darkchild Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Ah, forgot to put these here. SAS in Iraq Link to post Share on other sites
seawulfhornblower Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Ah, forgot to put these here. SAS in Iraq Well afaik these pics are regarded to be a bit more complicated, as it´s also likely that some of these guys are US and wearing parts of british uniforms, to be better identified when working together. I´ve seen pics of similar cooperations with german KSK showing US Special Forces in german 3col. Flecktarn but with their own M4s and Vests. However, this may never be clearified. Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Where did you read that? Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Ah, good that saves me from having to hunt those pictures down. Notice the use of Desert Tiger Stripe Trousers. The are not issue to anyone but are apparently populat with UK and US SF. Edit: You could of scaled the bloomin pictures down a bit though! Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 well they all have l119a1s, so if the us get those too, then obviously thier us.... but it looks like SAS, because they CAN mix camo, and wear different vests to suit the operator. looks all brit to me... sas have been known to use tricol pants and bits of dessie tiger. personal operator preferance. R Link to post Share on other sites
Tommygunn Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 How can you tell they have 1911's? Link to post Share on other sites
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