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Kliskey, how do you like the Gerber? I need a fixed blade and I'm thinking that or a SOG Tigerstripe SEAL Pup.

 

I own an LMF in black and I reckon it's a really nice knife. Only issues for me are the serrations make fine work a bit awkward.

The inbuilt sharpener is effective and the blade is held nice n secure in the sheath even without the two straps, although that does mean that drawing it has to be done with care.

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Hey guys, I have you seen the new Mossberg Ka Bar style clone knives *Chinese made*? It comes with a life time warranty, is $40 USD, USMC marked, and is pretty well balanced. That is a good price, and I am still looking for a place that sells real Ka Bars for around 50 USD. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone have any experience with Mossberg Knives, and their quality, durability, longevity, etc? I always wanted a Ka Bar, and I was wondering if that clone is worth it, or is the $70 genuine Ka Bar is worth saving and waiting for *a bit pricey and more than I am willing to pay at the moment*.

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i know this is prob in the wron forum all together but i have been interested in katana, especially the small ones, I forgot the name of them,

 

anyway i know japanese steel is the best and that the very best takes weeks to make,

but how do they make them so sharp compared to any other knife or sword out there.

 

I only want to know because i want to get a knife for use like a machette for clearing paths but dont want a machette,

 

or would a really good mini katana cost £0000's

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Woah, another HAK owner? :D

 

I can't remember what I've posted in here before so I'll just post the whole family...

 

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Strider SnG with sterile blade - my girlfriend really digs this, for some reason. Asian girls are weird. I took these before it got any use - it looks pretty beat up now, which is good.

 

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Left to right:

Strider DB-L NSN, Buck-Strider 889, Spyderco UK Pen Knife, TOPS Knives UTE-01, Spyderco Clipit Dragonfly, Strider Talon HAK, Strider Hybrid HAK, Utility HAK v2

 

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Close-up of the Strider DB-L NSN, #093 of 100

 

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Close-up of the 3 HAKs

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I'm happy to know that it'll do whatever I throw at it.

 

The steel is both thick enough to be rugged, and holds a great edge (S30V). The lock is done in such a way that it will not fail (Hinderer LBS helps here). If, 15 years down the line, the tip snaps off when I try to jam it through a car door to get someone out, Strider will replace it.

 

No matter what happens, no matter how absurd, it'll cope with it.

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Good knives, but there are better ones. Think I might pick up a SNG next Blade...but the ones I got lying around the house, and my daily Benchmade are fine enough.

 

The knife industry is more involved than airsoft and gear ever could or will be, so much to do, so much to buy, new makers, established makers, competitions, shows, its all so complex. You can buy a knife from a maker, turn around and sell it for a couple grand easily from an offer from a random guy who wants the knife more than you. Personally, Im all about Monroe right now, couple pages back, you can see why.

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I held a few Benchmades and didn't like the way they fitted my hand as well as the Striders. Nice knives (I still crave a Skirmish or Mini Skirmish), but not for me. A lot of it is personal preference.

 

When you get to this kind of price range, differences are pretty minor. They are ALL good.

 

Except Dork Ops...

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Striders are good when you need to pry open a steel drum for some unknown reason. For every day jobs, any knife with a premium steel (D2, S30V, INFI, etc) well get the job done and last quite a while (a Spyderco/Kershaw/Benchmade for under $100 lightly used) . The only reasons I use Striders are because of the outstanding warranty, and that Busse Combat doesn't produce any folders. They're also pretty cheap on the 2ndary market, that SnG I posted before was acquired for $200.

 

As for the Strider HAK:

Most useless little knife ever.

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I'm happy to know that it'll do whatever I throw at it.

 

The steel is both thick enough to be rugged, and holds a great edge (S30V). The lock is done in such a way that it will not fail (Hinderer LBS helps here). If, 15 years down the line, the tip snaps off when I try to jam it through a car door to get someone out, Strider will replace it.

 

No matter what happens, no matter how absurd, it'll cope with it.

Eh? Why would you use a knife to get through a car door? That's just stupid.

There are far better tools for this, such as a $30 crowbar.

 

Also, why go through the door when you can just smash the window?

 

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And there is no such thing as a lock that doesn't fail.

 

As for the Strider HAK:

Most useless little knife ever.

I disagree. HAKs may be specialist defensive tools, but they are good for most utility cutting tasks aswell.

 

 

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Eh? Why would you use a knife to get through a car door? That's just stupid.

There are far better tools for this, such as a $30 crowbar.

 

Also, why go through the door when you can just smash the window?

 

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And there is no such thing as a lock that doesn't fail.

 

 

I disagree. HAKs may be specialist defensive tools, but they are good for most utility cutting tasks aswell.

There's a story by an EMT guy on the Badlands Forums. He had to respond to a car crash and extracted someone trapped inside the car by hacking through the roof with a folding Strider AR. It's unlikely, but the capability is there. I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

 

There may be no such thing, but you can get pretty damn close. I've never seen or heard of a Strider lock with the Hinderer LBS failing. I HAVE heard of people who've made Spyderco and Benchmade locks fail, though.

 

The HAK is a great general purpose knife because you can't let go of it. If you need to use both hands but also need a knife (e.g. when up a ladder), it can't be beaten. If I remember correctly, FrontSight (wherever she ran off to...) claimed that she first 'invented' the HAK idea for pruning plants while up a ladder. Sure, they make excellent self-defense knives but I'd want the proper training first.

 

I just love them as general light users, and as art pieces - they're beautiful.

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Top: CRKT Ultima II

Bottom: Pair of Boker Applegate-Fairbairns (one of which is with Kyrian Zenda now)

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My 1st ever knife, CRKT Crawford Kasper

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SOG Pentagon Elite II

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Also have a S&W tactical, SOG Seal Pup and SOG NW Ranger but they're lost somewhere in my messy room in UK or Singapore

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I disagree. HAKs may be specialist defensive tools, but they are good for most utility cutting tasks aswell.

 

What's the point when you have a regular knife? More cutting area, more sheeple friendly, more police friendly, etc. Not to mention companies like Benchmade/Spyderco/Kershaw etc aren't run by ripoff artists. Also, as of right now, there is absolutely no warranty service for anything produced by HAK.

 

As for having a knife while going up a ladder, you can simply use any knife that you can deploy with one hand.

 

Defensive wise, an Emerson with Wave will take MUCH less time to deploy than an auto, or a HAK.

 

It's an okay knife, but there are many options that are MUCH better.

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Can you conceal an Emerson folder inside your waistbelt, or around your neck? People have been patted down while carrying them and the person patting them down has missed a HAK.

 

HAKs have their place. If you need use of both hands, you can use both while still having a HAK to hand (literally). If you take up one hand with a folder or other knife, you lose functionality of it. Surely it's not that hard to grasp - if you're on top of a ladder and you feel yourself starting to fall, you can either drop your folder (dangerously) and grab on, or you can just grab on with your HAK still safely on your fingers.

 

The usefulness of the HAK is something I debated until I got one, but now I know what all the fuss is about. And now I have 3. :P

 

Commenting on the lack of warranty and the business ethics of FrontSight and HideAway Knives is unfair - no-one willingly bought from them knowing that they were scam artists. The product was EXCELLENT, and then they dropped off the radar. If Emerson suddenly disappeared tomorrow, would you have the same gripes with your Emersons? Unlikely.

 

If you need a large blade then don't use a HAK. If you need a small concealable blade, or the use of both hands, then a HAK is ideal. No-one ever pretended that they were being marketed against folders, Wave-equipped or not. They have their own niche, and even if it is a niche, it is there. Try one and you'll probably find your own applications.

 

Finally, I take issue with your estimations of deployment time. HAKs are ready to use as soon as you draw them from the sheath, but the time it takes is entirely relative to where the knife is located. If it's hung around your neck under a T-shirt it's obviously going to take a while to draw, but I have achieved HIDEOUSLY fast draws from a sheath stuck under the collar of my jacket (and it's invisible there, too). An auto may not be quite as fast to deploy as a Wave knife due to the fact that you can only safely deploy it once it's outside of your pocket, but in the time it takes to raise either knife to a useable position in a self-defense role, they're both going to be deployed - the Wave as soon as it leaves the pocket, the auto will deploy in a fraction of a second as you are bringing it into position. The time the blade takes to emerge from the handle may be different, but the time to actual readiness will be no different.

 

Anyway, I've used 3 HAKs and owned any number of folders from any number of companies. I still find the HAKs to have applications that none of the other knives I have ever owned can boast. For me, they work, and that's the most important thing.

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101matt1 that is a lovely knife i really like sheath knifes

 

This is good. For the Marines hate that leather sheath (or maybe it was just my dad... something about the sheath developing an inward curving with age and then poking you in awkward places when you jump out of perfectly good airplanes).

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