Guinness Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Lets wait for them before we start bashing! Although the overpriced comment in a way is fair. But I think I will wait for the Magma M4 gear box and also another company is making a AEG blow back kit for the M4/M16 Roger that- I'm also still just cynical/conspiracy minded enough to imagine a connection between the WA product and the Tanio Koba C4 Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 What company would that be? There's been alot of speculation and rumors over on classicairsoft.net for quite some time now about companies that are coming out with blowback gearbox shells. Anyone have any idea if these gearbox shells will work with the newly released bolt catch? IF they do i will be selling my PTW so fast peoples heads will spin. Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 The gearbox quality was my thought as well, as the bolt throws quite a bit of energy at the weakest point of the v2. The hardwiring to the body is probably my only grief, i cant just hand the gun to somebody should the need arise if they dont have an air rig with matching connectors themselves. But as for the hose itself being a problem it is swallowed up by all the pros of the system. I was actually hoping around a $300ish pricepoint myself, but that will unveil itself with time. Yeah TDS did call that one, unless im mistaken and VFC and Inokatsu's quality is just that higher, but this seems to put that issue to rest. I would put money on Madbull for Fareast's post, they might not be done with the 470 yet? Link to post Share on other sites
freq88 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 hopefully one of these gearboxes won't be an endless wait and major letdown at the end as the madbull one was. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 hopefully one of these gearboxes won't be an endless wait and major letdown at the end as the madbull one was. Quote that one for the truth. Madbull is a fantastic company, the majority of their products are excellent so heres hoping they took the 470 back to the drawing board. Considering the fact that madbull has the capability to cnc machine materials on a larger scale than escort they may very well outdo escort IF they're a part of this race. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Yes they will but will require a quick mod. I can't tell you the company releasing the Gas and AEG BB gear boxes but they will be very affordable, infact they want you to replace all of your gear boxes with them and should be out early next year. They are ready but they are trying to see exactly what the breaking point of them are, they are trying for over 1 milllion BB's before maintance. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Not Madbull Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 The madbull 470 which was a piece of ######. Ah, that's what it was called... wasn't as cool as this though... here's what the magbull 470 looks like (no recoil...pff):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i-QVmQKM1g Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Fareast, i love you man but you sir are one huge *albatross* cocktease. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I know and whats worse is that I have images..... but they asked me not to post anything until they are ready. They are well aware of other mech boxes falling short of popular demand and expectations so they want it to be a complete product. They are even talking about actually giving your spares in the kit so you can maintain it yourself. But rest assured they have promised an Arnie's exclusive review!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
wolfstein5 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Yes they will but will require a quick mod. I can't tell you the company releasing the Gas and AEG BB gear boxes but they will be very affordable, infact they want you to replace all of your gear boxes with them and should be out early next year. They are ready but they are trying to see exactly what the breaking point of them are, they are trying for over 1 milllion BB's before maintance. These gearboxes will also cook, clean, and do your laundry. However, if the identity of the company producing them is revealed, Fareast will receive less attention and Germany will invade France, precipitating an ego-hurt and WWIII, respectively. JK. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I hate you fareast, you're a very bad man. May your multicam BDU's come alive and eat your brain. You will never see them coming! Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Actually thats not the case, this isn't the whole secret item from China thread. This is legit, Im just not allowed to reveal any details as of yet due to the following: Western Arms is releasing a blow back Gas gearboxx for M4's and M16's. Tokyo Marui is working on a AEG blow back system for M4/M16 rifles. China is always on the look out for items to replicate and don't care about QA Escort has also produced a GBB gearbox. Basically they are trying to patent thier design and also keep as many of the details on the hush as possible to prevent replicating and infringment by larger companies as I beleive this is thier first adventure in to the Airsoft market and so wish to have a head start before they eventually get ripped off from our Chinese cousins. Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I'm so confused... are you lying or is everything you said the truth? Actually thats not the case, this isn't the whole secret item from China thread. This is legit, Im just not allowed to reveal any details as of yet due to the following: Western Arms is releasing a blow back Gas gearboxx for M4's and M16's. Tokyo Marui is working on a AEG blow back system for M4/M16 rifles. China is always on the look out for items to replicate and don't care about QA Escort has also produced a GBB gearbox. Basically they are trying to patent thier design and also keep as many of the details on the hush as possible to prevent replicating and infringment by larger companies as I beleive this is thier first adventure in to the Airsoft market and so wish to have a head start before they eventually get ripped off from our Chinese cousins. Tokyo Marui M4/M16blowback... innovative..but probably pathetic like the TM AK74MN (actually its OK considering its a AEG: same recoil as a systema hard recoil kit). Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I'm so confused... are you lying or is everything you said the truth? Tokyo Marui M4/M16blowback... innovative..but probably pathetic like the TM AK74MN (actually its OK considering its a AEG: same recoil as a systema hard recoil kit). It's the truth, being a staff writter and also having a very good working relationship with many manufacturers (It's amazing that companies like it when you tell them thier product sucks and where they need to improve it) you learn alot of things that you get sworn to secrecy on. Its hard for me as i want to shout some of these things from the roof tops but can't. Once I have the green light I can post all the details, images and numbers but until that day I'm bound. As for the TM, well at least it's a step in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites
wolfstein5 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 AEG blowback sounds pretty gimmicky to me. Stick a needle on that bolt and what do you have? That's right. A sewing machine. The more gas gearboxes to choose from, the better. *Granted, you could still make a sewing machine out of a regular AEG, but you get the point. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 agreed but in some countries its not really an option, Japan sites are pretty much banning HPS systems as it is to easy to up the gas levels and cheat. So some of us are locked into the AEG world. Thats why many of us are awaiting the Western Arms M4 as this is designed for Japanese HFC134a Gas and regulations. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Yeah but HFC134a makes us cry. The performance is deplorable. Here's hoping WA optimized the system and its actually good for you japanese fellas. Btw, to the original poster, how did you stumble across this? I didnt see anything on classicairsoft.net which is a real surprise. Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I understand that you're sworn to secrecy FarEast, and believe me I very much respect you for being an honorable man and keeping the details hush hush. But I don't suppose you could tell is if there is any possibility of this secret new airsoft company (or any other for that matter) producing a gas blowback gearbox for V3 series AEGs, specifically the Marui AK-47? I've been wanting a nice gas blowback AK for a very long time but it seems the only companies out there that I know of who are working on GBB gearboxes are making them for V2 series AEGs only... and that makes Jin a sad commie bastage Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 AEG blowback sounds pretty gimmicky to me. Stick a needle on that bolt and what do you have? It does sound slightly different with a recoil system in addition to blowback. Not very "sewing machine" at all... Btw, to the original poster, how did you stumble across this? I didnt see anything on classicairsoft.net which is a real surprise. Well, its youtube so he probably did what the rest of us do. Search for "airsoft" in "date added"... I just did that and found new vids of PDI's pathetic excuse of a shell-ejecting AK : OCRS Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Rofl, PDI is the official distributor of the RAP4 in japan i believe. Man, that AK is even lamer than their m4. Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 LOL I was gonna say that looked like a Rap4 but ya beat me to it! Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Rofl, PDI is the official distributor of the RAP4 in japan i believe. Man, that AK is even lamer than their m4. yea. I think that's right... lol... but yea...lol.. the "shells" eject from under the bolt...lol.. and it looks like the bolt is part of the mold; basing this off of the vid shot from behind. Link to post Share on other sites
lin_pointer Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I think Team Apocalypse are working on co2 eg type drop gearbox and they do offer co2 cannister that functions like the stock pipes on the m4, something to solve the rig hater's problem I guess http://www.teamapocalypse.ph/viewtopic.php?t=2394 http://airsoft-news.eu/news.php?20 they are a small scale company kinda like escort! Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Oooooh, can't wait. Will buy. Yes. Will buy now. This is big...huge...buy. Yes. -Vic Link to post Share on other sites
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