evansy Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 (edited) A duty belt would be better for carrying the pouches but you may have trouble fitting it through the belt loops on some BDUs. Have you tried using belt pads? I used to get alot or rubbing with my duty belt (worn as a 1st line) before I got one but with the belt pad I hardly notice it's there. Also have you tried wearing your trouser belt higher than your 1st line belt? Here's a pic of me where you can see the trouser belt and 1st line so you can see what I mean. The trouser belt cant drop below the duty belt so I dont get any rubbing or pinching at all. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/eva...r/summerkit.jpg Edited September 6, 2009 by evansy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buerstli Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Did you tried suspenders to hold your first line(so you can adjust it rather wide with almost no pressure to your hips)? I wouldn't use my trouser belt as a first line because it should hold your trousers and therefore it has to sit tightly what will cause more problems if you're adding wheigt. Hope this helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leiska Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Currently for BDUs i have a Tru Spec made BDU belt. For the first line there has been normal Alice belt, with and without beltpad, TT molle belt and dozen other 'tacticool' belts. Suspenders doesn't work for me, because when i 'hug the ground' the belt ends up somewhere around my chest, completely the opposite, which is weird. The idea in the picture in my opinion is great, and probably many people use those like you do. Only concern to me is the short torso that i have... oh well. Leiska Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Unless your trousers are so tight (in which case you shouldn't need a belt) if you have a gun and other stuff on it, its gonna drag your trousers down. Belt pad is probs best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayneard3413 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 The above is not an issue if you are running a quality belt... I would say that I carry more weight on my trouser belt everyday for 12+ hours a day than most airsofters do in a game Have you thought about a police duty belt with a proper velcro lined trouser belt and some belt keepers to help stabilize it all? I could carry 15 pounds of ###### hanging off my belt without too many issue and it stays put My go to belt kit now has my pistol with two spare mags, 3 Pmags and a light and is very comfortable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 surley putting pouches and ammo on your trouser belt would be far more uncomfertable than a seperate duty belt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leiska Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Have you thought about a police duty belt with a proper velcro lined trouser belt and some belt keepers to help stabilize it all? Hmmm, well theres an Idea. Thank you. Google ---> Leiska Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 (Picture) -Joe I'm using a MOLLE Belt for my m14/Markmen loadout aswell. Looks nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-MOOSE- Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 The thing is when i wear two belts, one for trousers and one for the so called 'first line'. Always and i mean it always. There happens that, that the first line belt gives some much preasure to the trousers belt and it cuts deep into me, and again i'm not meaning any small little tiny scratch. There is every time need for a real trained medic/doc to patch me up. As everyone can imagine i'm tired of it and don't want it to happen again + it hurts big time. I'm gonna carry on it my 1911, rollypolly and endoms 6o4 pouch and yes i'm going to loop it through trousers. Put your kit on your riggers belt, that should do it. I've never been able to fit a duty belt(EI) in the loops of the pants, so I'd use a rigger belt if they do fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Your outer may needs to be held up by suspenders and it doesnt need to be tight persay just have the slack taken out of it so it cannot rotate should you go the suspender route. You also may be using too much of a belt for a pants belt if its able to cut you. Wear a full belt kit over a BHI rigger belt and have never had said problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fullforce Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Would anyone have anything to say (positive, negative, etc) about the Bulle MOLLE KABP Kit? I've been wanting a lightweight, compact, easy to use kit for a while and a simple beltkit seems to be the way to go, as well as being not that expensive. I was thinking of getting the KABP and a Molle pouch. Might be going for a Far Cry 2 buddy lightweight casual look. Furthermore, is there a guide somewhere to belt kits? How they should sit? should it hang loosely or be quite tight, like a normal belt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Best M14 and setup for an M14, ever. thanks dude, but im going to have to disagree.... i have already decided to swap out the optic for a scout scope, as my SOCOM16 better serves me with magnification. my AR15 will be my close quarters rifle with a mounted Trijicon Reflex RX30. -Joe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) Would anyone have anything to say (positive, negative, etc) about the Bulle MOLLE KABP Kit? I've been wanting a lightweight, compact, easy to use kit for a while and a simple beltkit seems to be the way to go, as well as being not that expensive. I was thinking of getting the KABP and a Molle pouch. Might be going for a Far Cry 2 buddy lightweight casual look. Furthermore, is there a guide somewhere to belt kits? How they should sit? should it hang loosely or be quite tight, like a normal belt? depends on what you want to put on it and its a bit of personal pref If you have suspenders it can afford to be a bit loose but that depends on your level of personal comfort and the amount of padding in the suspenders Wearing it standalone has to be tight of course Typically you would wear that directly on top of the trouser belt, which should rest on your hips and allow them to hold it up rather than pure friction keeping it on your gut. Edited September 9, 2009 by Azulsky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Use something thinner and lighter to hold your trousers up? A bit of nylon webbing with the appropriate plastic buckle (ladder lock works well) on the end works wonders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RSM Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I'm gonna be picking one of these up to replace my trouser belt, think its very similar to the belts that 5.11 do but up sized for the belt loops on S'95 style trousers. http://www.ukkitmonster.com/product_info.php?products_id=804 At one point I did run a old 95 pattern working belt (with the metal clasps) and wore it as a trouser belt with just PLCE ammo pouches attached, worked quite well thinking about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayneard3413 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Just a note, you can pick up 5.11 belts in 1.75" (that is actually what I wear everyday) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fullforce Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Furthermore, is it a good idea to have a drop leg (holster or otherwise) from the belt kit or from your trouser belt? I always imagined a belt kit to be looser and hanging, like PLCE Webbing in a sense, but I suppose not. My ultimate goal is to have a FC2-style appearance, notably that of Paul Ferenc in FC2. The sort of mix between casual but militaristic. And adding in the belt kit with enough ammo for a game without carrying enough for the whole year - I like to be able to move fast. And finding a cheap khaki or OD hoody sure is hard . And is there a good drop leg for a machete? not that I'm particularly keen on getting one nor swinging it about like a maniac, unless (I'm sure there is) there's a 'prop' option. I'm going a bit off topic here anyway - hate to clutter up these picture threads with discussion, maybe we need a gear discussion thread for belt kits to avoid the mix. Edited September 10, 2009 by Fullforce Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lerch Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 My PLCE webbing, built the set about two years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Furthermore, is it a good idea to have a drop leg (holster or otherwise) from the belt kit or from your trouser belt? I always imagined a belt kit to be looser and hanging, like PLCE Webbing in a sense, but I suppose not. My ultimate goal is to have a FC2-style appearance, notably that of Paul Ferenc in FC2. The sort of mix between casual but militaristic. And adding in the belt kit with enough ammo for a game without carrying enough for the whole year - I like to be able to move fast. And finding a cheap khaki or OD hoody sure is hard . And is there a good drop leg for a machete? not that I'm particularly keen on getting one nor swinging it about like a maniac, unless (I'm sure there is) there's a 'prop' option. I'm going a bit off topic here anyway - hate to clutter up these picture threads with discussion, maybe we need a gear discussion thread for belt kits to avoid the mix. For a drop leg you typically want to have a rigid type belt, like the 5 stitch rigger belts. I would only put the drop holster on a pants belt and nothing else if you must Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raven 6 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think this is seriously the best kit I've ever used. Some small tweaks could probably make it better though, but right now it serves its purpose more than well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DerRelienT Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Just got my butt pack and attached my gloves I'll probably end up getting two ALICE mag pouches if I decide to skirmish with this, ut I'm happy with it for now. From right to left: PETZL rappelling gloves attached via carabiner compass pouch with small first aid kit Canteen pouch with canteen and canteen cup Butt pack Canteen pouch with canteen Compass pouch with compass and small notebook. And LC2 belt and suspenders USGI Crookneck flashlight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parsley Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 ]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Black_Hawk_169/DSC_0017-1.jpg My PLCE webbing, built the set about two years ago. lerch buddy your bungee isn't doing *fruitcage* all there, shouldn't go through the loops between pouches, just a pointer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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RIXX Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Handcuffs? BHI Belt with Beltpad triple BHI Pistolmagp. SDS Sustainment SDS Medic LBT E&E Rappel gloves Safariland BHI double Pistolmagp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Yeah. Handcuffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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