pgup.dk Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 I want one! Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 You should also run this on the rival forums, you will gain more support, i bought my haynes from that forum a while back. Really, and it is the speed that breaks them? well it is not really, it is always the bearing or bushing under the Spur gear which breaks, because it handles all the pressure. anyway, i know a few people who would not min getting their hands on these boxes, including myself. i just ordered the pro win black 8mm boks, which i paid 260 $ for, so this is cheap in comparison. would love 8-9 mm bearings in this one though. Prowins are completely different they include the hop chamber in the gearbox to avoid airloss thus improving compression, Then they are split in half gearboxes, becuase of the compression you can run an m80 spring giving you roughly 340 fps with insane speed because the spring is uber weak. Haynes are just CNC reinforced aluminum version 2 gearboxes, its like comparing an MP5 and an M4, i had one last year bought on the forums they require minor work and filing down compared to a Pro Win, they are only really usefull for high torque over high speed. I sold my haynes with my Rifle a shame at that because it was a great gearbox. Run me a 9mm and ile have one Link to post Share on other sites
luE Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Count me in for one too. Link to post Share on other sites
txaggie08 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 any word on when this might go through? Link to post Share on other sites
monkey530 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 any word on when this might go through? Whenever the money for 70 gearboxes comes in. Link to post Share on other sites
Taquito Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 you know this thread has a lot of info on why the bearings are 7mm not 8 and 9. supposedly the bearings used in most gearboxes are level 1 grade, and the 7mm used in these are level 4 ceramic bearings... supposed to to be able to handle 70 k rpm lol. also they're pressed in rather than just drop in so the bearing doesn't spin around in the gearbox shell just on the gear axles. so it probably doesn't really need the extra 2mm haha heres the link for the thread http://oplionclaws.com/forums/viewtopic.ph...a5ec1a0b362c929 Link to post Share on other sites
yubbermax Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Haynes is local to me. He's a good guy and I hope you guys go through with this, his gearboxes are amazing. Link to post Share on other sites
eel one [COE] Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Well the danish community alone is ready to put down the money for at least 10 units, from what I can read in this thread. That counts for 14% of the total minimum order and we represent one of the smallest communities that is also active here on arnies. C'mon people, start ordering so the production can begin. Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 +1 here Link to post Share on other sites
hokeyplyr48 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 how many do you have so far? because i'm interested in one, but it depends on the timing of it all. are you even close to filling the order? Link to post Share on other sites
Cordes Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I'm in for one Link to post Share on other sites
bnoji Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I'd like 1. Is anyone taking contact info? Where will payments go? Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 When we get close to 70 if someone else doesnt first i will start asking for contact info so either i can handle it or if someone else wants to we can give the info to them When i get a shot in the next day or so ill go through the thread and count up gearboxes and see where we are at. We need to ask what the production time for the gearboxes are. Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Is anyone taking contact info? Where will payments go? Good questions. I second them. -Vic Edit: Ahh, beat me to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Pivert-PIVNOX Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 you know this thread has a lot of info on why the bearings are 7mm not 8 and 9. supposedly the bearings used in most gearboxes are level 1 grade, and the 7mm used in these are level 4 ceramic bearings... supposed to to be able to handle 70 k rpm lol. also they're pressed in rather than just drop in so the bearing doesn't spin around in the gearbox shell just on the gear axles. so it probably doesn't really need the extra 2mm haha heres the link for the thread http://oplionclaws.com/forums/viewtopic.ph...a5ec1a0b362c929 Okay, If you tell me that Kanzen ceramic 7mm bearings are lvl. 1, then I might believe in those bearings. Because they don't hold more than 5000 shots. QUOTE ("MTHaynes" from forum: Operation Lion Claws ) We are now fitting the gearbox with a level 4 bearing. This bearing is capable of 70k rpm. Lets do some math. At 40 ball per sec with super torques (8:1 gear reduction) your bevel gear will spin about 19k RPM . If you speed the bevel up to 70k rpm (the manufactures bearing limit) with super torques that should be about 145 balls per second. Can you handle that? Now you guys have a goal and a lot of work to do so get cracking. I want to see a 145 ball gun It isn't really the bearings at the bevel that crashes, it's the bearing under the spur that's the problem. And it dies when I run ROF 35 with RiotSC HS CNC gears (from airsoftmechanics), and they also do it with Prometheus HS gears. And I use Kanzen 7mm L-series and classic, and the std. 8mm the comes with the Pro-win have all ready lastet longer than that. So I don't really give anything for the the manufactures bearing limit, since it isn't the rpm that kills them. But the sheer load of pressure that's the problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Pivert-PIVNOX Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Prowins are completely different they include the hop chamber in the gearbox to avoid airloss thus improving compression, Then they are split in half gearboxes, becuase of the compression you can run an m80 spring giving you roughly 340 fps with insane speed because the spring is uber weak. Haynes are just CNC reinforced aluminum version 2 gearboxes, its like comparing an MP5 and an M4, i had one last year bought on the forums they require minor work and filing down compared to a Pro Win, they are only really usefull for high torque over high speed. Don't say things like that when you have no experience. You have clearly never built a real High speed gun, that goes ROF 30+ and 124-127m/s (406-416 feet.: 423 feet a second is the common max FA rule in denmark) The reason for me and my friends (inculde ringsted) buying Pro-win is that regular gearbox's don't last very long, the break all the time when you demand more. And that is the correct angel to compare a Haynes with a Pro-win. Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I want one of these too, I am having no luck getting one second hand. How many pledges are we at now, I mean this is post #67 and they aren't all spam. Let's get our CNC on! Link to post Share on other sites
k30dxedle Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Don't say things like that when you have no experience. You have clearly never built a real High speed gun, that goes ROF 30+ and 124-127m/s (406-416 feet.: 423 feet a second is the common max FA rule in denmark) The reason for me and my friends (inculde ringsted) buying Pro-win is that regular gearbox's don't last very long, the break all the time when you demand more. And that is the correct angel to compare a Haynes with a Pro-win. Yeah, yeah, a "real" whatever-category gun is whatever you build, and whoever doesn't build that kind of gun has no experience. Some people don't enjoy being talked down to, and I'd wager that most of this forum falls under that category. I don't know and honestly couldn't care less whether you're right or wrong, because I am one of the people who actually has zero (0) experience with high-speed setups. Right or wrong, condescending attitudes ###### me off. Build a ridiculous gun, what do I care? I don't live in Denmark and have no immediate plans to airsoft there, shoot your friends up all you want, just don't feel like you have the inherent right to belittle people because of it. Maybe it sounds harsh. Fine. Maybe it is. I'm just sick of people constantly thinking inferior equipment = inferior brains, playing skill, other things completely unrelated to money. Link to post Share on other sites
eel one [COE] Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 The experience of the people who pushes the limit for what is possible to do with an airsoft gun should IMHO count more that the experience of people that "only" do low fps medium rof setups. It is in the pursuit of performance that the development of new parts are being tested for real and the parts that works for the extreme setups, will also be the most doable parts for the less extreme setup. Link to post Share on other sites
Pivert-PIVNOX Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Is it possible to order those bearings, so I can test them before buying as many box's I can afford. That would be a real help... Yeah, yeah, a "real" whatever-category gun is whatever you build, and whoever doesn't build that kind of gun has no experience. Some people don't enjoy being talked down to, and I'd wager that most of this forum falls under that category. I don't know and honestly couldn't care less whether you're right or wrong, because I am one of the people who actually has zero (0) experience with high-speed setups. Right or wrong, condescending attitudes ###### me off. Build a ridiculous gun, what do I care? I don't live in Denmark and have no immediate plans to airsoft there, shoot your friends up all you want, just don't feel like you have the inherent right to belittle people because of it. Maybe it sounds harsh. Fine. Maybe it is. I'm just sick of people constantly thinking inferior equipment = inferior brains, playing skill, other things completely unrelated to money. well, some people should play so big, when they haven't bin turning every rock under the sun. Then again I see your problem, in the future I'll just be reading again in here, sitting and shakeing my head every time I read something, that my experince tells me that is totally wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Ross-Da-Boss Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Come on guys....less spam and *chaffinch* chat as this will make it harder for us to count up the genuine orders made. Cheers, R ss Link to post Share on other sites
FO1 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 im down to order 1 of these Link to post Share on other sites
nano Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 How many order so far? Im a bit tempted Link to post Share on other sites
FO1 Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 How many order so far? Im a bit tempted HAYNESBOX=One bad A%^ Mofrackey! get one! Link to post Share on other sites
Skaaning Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 1 box for me please. And a summery of the total committed som far would be great. :-) (My count is 46 committed + 5 probables). Skaaning Link to post Share on other sites
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