BigAl Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Why would they be using a sniper rifle without a scope? Becasue it accurate and faster without a scope. Link to post Share on other sites
aznsk8s87 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Because it's an AEG so if he misses he just flips the thing to auto and sprays the hell out of his target. Duh. Airsoft >>> IRL. Link to post Share on other sites
Reborn Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Maybe because the sunlight reflecting off a lens is a dead giveaway or maybe because iron sights would allow to keep his head lower (thus reducing the risk of getting shot)? Don't believe me? Ask Simo Hayha. AKA the most effective sniper in the history of warfare. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 That's why man invented killflashes and low-profile mounts... Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 The real answer is that it isn't really a sniper rifle. It's a designated marksman rifle. And some marksmen are just better with irons than with optics and not every situation is best served by an optic. For instance, there is a vehicle nearby. Perhaps he was on convoy duty (where optics simply increase your likelihood of tangling your weapon on something). Or, given his dress and kit, being lightweight, he might have decided to save ounces to save pounds and eliminate the optic all together. Or maybe his optic was knocked out by an IED, but no replacement is forthcoming, and his arsenal is limited. In any case, the weapon doesn't matter so much as the man operating it. Link to post Share on other sites
Frakk2k Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Is the goatee some sort of PMC humor? Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Airsoft anyone?... Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 PMC with xm8?? Since he has another weapon on him, I'd say he is holding it for the picture, which gives no conclusive evidence that PMC's actually use that ugly POS (did I say that outloud?). Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Maybe because the sunlight reflecting off a lens is a dead giveaway or maybe because iron sights would allow to keep his head lower (thus reducing the risk of getting shot)? Don't believe me? Ask Simo Hayha. AKA the most effective sniper in the history of warfare. The real answer is that it isn't really a sniper rifle. It's a designated marksman rifle. And some marksmen are just better with irons than with optics and not every situation is best served by an optic. For instance, there is a vehicle nearby. Perhaps he was on convoy duty (where optics simply increase your likelihood of tangling your weapon on something). Or, given his dress and kit, being lightweight, he might have decided to save ounces to save pounds and eliminate the optic all together. Or maybe his optic was knocked out by an IED, but no replacement is forthcoming, and his arsenal is limited. In any case, the weapon doesn't matter so much as the man operating it. Are you guys insane? You cannot effectively shoot long range without the ability to see long range. Airsoft simulates real life (or it's supposed to) and so thus you would want a scope. Link to post Share on other sites
Reborn Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 And "long-range" in airsoft is what, two hundred yards at the most? Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Are you guys insane? You cannot effectively shoot long range without the ability to see long range. Airsoft simulates real life (or it's supposed to) and so thus you would want a scope. So perhaps he's using it for close range shooting where magnifacation would slow his target acquisation (to ###### to spell that) down. Link to post Share on other sites
vbtb110 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Then why would you pick a sniper rifle out of the armory, which is longer, more awkward, and harder to move around? It just doesn't make sense, he's using a completely wrong tool for the job And yes I am taking this from the real-world perspective since we are supposed to be simulating that. Link to post Share on other sites
aznsk8s87 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 And yes I am taking this from the real-world perspective since we are supposed to be simulating that. Did none of you read his post? He's lazy and hasn't gotten around to buying the scope. Geez. Learn to read. Link to post Share on other sites
lonerangernath Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 my pmc loadout. just a real quick photo. sorry for the poor quality, it was like 4in the mornin and took an a mobile, ill upload better photos soon. lonerangernath Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Airsoft simulates real life (or it's supposed to) No its not. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Are you guys insane? You cannot effectively shoot long range without the ability to see long range. Airsoft simulates real life (or it's supposed to) and so thus you would want a scope. No and you're right, respectively. However, your assumption that using a scope enables one to "see long range" is patently false. Do I really need to bring out the fact that your average infantryman was expected to be able to shoot out to 1,000 yards in the 1880s? With iron sights? Now, granted, rifle scopes are a lot more ruggedly designed today than they were then, but the point still holds: You do not need a scope in order to fire a weapon precisely at long ranges. (Unless, of course, you don't know how... which is your problem, not his.) Buffalo Bill and the White Death both did it. So can anyone else who can put in the requisite practice necessary. Rifle scopes do nothing but: A-Simplify sight picture, and; B-Magnify the image that your eye receives. Then why would you pick a sniper rifle out of the armory, which is longer, more awkward, and harder to move around? It just doesn't make sense, he's using a completely wrong tool for the job And yes I am taking this from the real-world perspective since we are supposed to be simulating that. From a real world perspective: The longer sight radius increases inherent accuracy and a longer barrel increases muzzle velocity. Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Chill out guys. I'm GOING TO BUY A SCOPE. I haven't gotten around to it yet. Link to post Share on other sites
aznsk8s87 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 look at what you've started, merchant. Though this begs the question, what will people say when I tell them I plan to buy a BAR-10 and just use the irons? Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Hunk Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Who cares. Less gibberish more PMC talk. Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 My comment was only in response to the attempted justification. I think that we can all agree that an SPR not properly setup for the job is dumb. Anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 And I'm also sure that anyone who insists that a scope must be mounted on a weapon whose maximum effective range is 600 meters doesn't know what they're talking about. Moving right along.... Oakley SI Assault boots +PACA (black) +RRV (CB) +TAD Special Service Sweater (ME Brown) +TAD Watch Cap (ME Green) +Black & green shemagh +Desert MCCUUs +FNC =Good arid PMC medicine? Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 sounds good. IDK why they would wear all tan/CB gear, and then have a black PACA? Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Ive seena few black ones. But Im pretty sure a PMC would pic a tan one over a black one. Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think its dependent where the PMC is deployed, I'd imagine if say a PMC was deployed in Midtown Manhattan he'd choose a black one if given the option. However if he is building an IRaqi/desert PMC then a tan one would be the one to go with. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Yeah. Theres a few pics of Blackwater guys in urban and they have all black gear. Link to post Share on other sites
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