Jagdraben Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 My reason is simply that I can get a Pantac replica of one in black for the price of shipping from RWA. That and it makes it slightly more PMC-ish... a tan PACA with a CB RRV and MCCUUs might be a bit too Marine. Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Yea, I'd drop the MARPAT if this is a PMC impression. Edit: Jagdraben, you're very good at making me really angry. Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Please do drop the MARPAT. Using uniforms (FULL UNIFORMS) of combat troops operating in your area is a no-no, IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 MCCUU trousers. Not the full get-up. EDIT: And who says that Marines are operating in the area? I haven't seen a Marine in uniform around here outside of the local recruiter's office. Link to post Share on other sites
TheMerchantOfVenice Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Assumptions: +Desert MCCUUs meant full MARPAT That you'd be in the Middle East due to desert-ness. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Well... anywhere that's arid really. Could be Middle East. Could be South/Central America. Could be Central Asia. Could be South-Eastern United States. Could be parts of South Africa. Could be North Africa. Could be Spain. Could be Turkey. Could be India. Could be Australia. &. &c. There are lots and lots of places on earth that are arid. Not all of them are hotspots and most of those that are aren't in the news. EDIT: From Hyperstealth's webpage: Ideal Operating Range of SpecAm Desert Viper Ideal Operating Range of SpecAm Desert Jackal Ideal Operating Range of SpecAm Desert Adder Ideal Operating Range of SpecAm Arid Ideal Operating Range of SpecAm Mountain MCCUUs are easier to acquire than the Hyperstealth patterns (in a timely manner and in a size that fits, no offense to Hyperstealth) and cover all of the arid and semi-arid ranges listed above. So there's an awful lot of places where a PMC could be where camouflage intended for use in aird regions would be used (recalling, here, the use of German desert camouflage in Iraq by British PMCs). Link to post Share on other sites
Reborn Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I think its dependent where the PMC is deployed, I'd imagine if say a PMC was deployed in Midtown Manhattan he'd choose a black one if given the option. However if he is building an IRaqi/desert PMC then a tan one would be the one to go with. It's more like using whatever's available. The History Channel did a documentary on PMCs in Iraq and the British firm they interviewed had employees who used black PACAs. Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Must we pick everyone's post apart? Jeez, maybe that ought to be arnies new years resolution Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Hunk Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Isn't that what posting kit lists is about? My rig, es-ploded. Want to get a handmic for the VHF radio. Replace the fake frag with a real smoke grenade. Add a small monocular to one of the front pouches. Get a SureFire 6P Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 haha i suppose it is... Link to post Share on other sites
Zmarre Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I can easily imagine PSCs adding some black bits to their loadout to look more impressing on some occasions. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 :S If you read a book called Making a Killing, you'll find he simply grabs whatever he can due to shortages and time restrictions. I rather suspect that sort of thing is more important than " to look intimidating" Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Please do drop the MARPAT. Using uniforms (FULL UNIFORMS) of combat troops operating in your area is a no-no, IIRC. ... Did you not read the thread? Do you simply regurgitate absolute rubbish? How many times do I have to say this? The wearing of camouflage clothing and items is dependent on the PSC's contract, policies & regulations, local laws, and a few other factors. Many DoD contractors are required to wear UCP with 'DoD Contractor' service tapes. This is to make them easily identifiable, so in the event of an emergency, they'll be pretty much on the first plane out. Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 :S If you read a book called Making a Killing, you'll find he simply grabs whatever he can due to shortages and time restrictions. I rather suspect that sort of thing is more important than " to look intimidating" I really enjoyed that book and as you said it was a bit of a struggle initially when it came to kit. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 ... Did you not read the thread? Do you simply regurgitate absolute rubbish? How many times do I have to say this? The wearing of camouflage clothing and items is dependent on the PSC's contract, policies & regulations, local laws, and a few other factors. Many DoD contractors are required to wear UCP with 'DoD Contractor' service tapes. This is to make them easily identifiable, so in the event of an emergency, they'll be pretty much on the first plane out. What would be the point of full marpat in this thread though? IT would just look like another newb loadout IMO. Thats why Desert camo/Khaki pants and normal top is better for the thread. Thats like saying somone can post a full Marpat loadout, with a Crossdraw and be a PMC? Where in this topic to look different from the average soldier, not to be a PMC that looks like a Marine. Its why people do differnt loadouts, be it Army, Marine, Force Recon Etc. To BE different Sorry to add fuel to it, just had to say that Link to post Share on other sites
McArthur Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 If you posted a full MARPAT kit, then you could theoretically be a PMC. The same way, if I posted a pic of me in a clown suit I could theoretically be a Navy SEAL. But if you did so, everybody would tell you to bugger off and stop being such a clown (No pun intended) We all have a decent idea of what a PMC looks like, how he works and what he uses to do his job. It's a very wide set of guidelines, but a full Marine kit is outside of those boundries. I think that as long as the blouse isn't used, then it would look fine and you would not be mistaken for a Marine. Link to post Share on other sites
Reincarnation... Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think that as long as the blouse isn't used, then it would look fine and you would not be mistaken for a Marine. Yeah. Thus the reason he wants a "+TAD Special Service Sweater (ME Brown)" probably. Plus they are warm and full of TAD goodness. Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 What would be the point of full marpat in this thread though? IT would just look like another newb loadout IMO. Thats why Desert camo/Khaki pants and normal top is better for the thread. Thats like saying somone can post a full Marpat loadout, with a Crossdraw and be a PMC? Where in this topic to look different from the average soldier, not to be a PMC that looks like a Marine. Its why people do differnt loadouts, be it Army, Marine, Force Recon Etc. To BE different Sorry to add fuel to it, just had to say that Lol, well then having a marpat PMC loadout would look different. Too bad you only see PMC's in polos and khakis. I guess having one in marpat can't be different? Basically you are a hipocrit lots of PMC's wear full marpat. Get off your high horse and don't hate on people for being "different" Link to post Share on other sites
Munitions Man Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Lol, well then having a marpat PMC loadout would look different. Too bad you only see PMC's in polos and khakis. I guess having one in marpat can't be different? Basically you are a hipocrit lots of PMC's wear full marpat. Get off your high horse and don't hate on people for being "different" Do you have any pictures, I've never seen a PMC in FULL marpat. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I would love to see a PMC run around here in a polo and khaki slacks, on anything other than "stay-in-bed-and-protect-the-fireplace duty". Especially during the last two weeks, when the temperature never rose above 0 (F). Do you have any pictures, I've never seen a PMC in FULL marpat. I never said anything about full MARPAT. Granted, I never said, "MCCUU trousers." And for that I apologize. Now, can we please go back to PMC load-outs, instead of starting a new argument every page? Link to post Share on other sites
PynkPanthyr Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Do you have any pictures, I've never seen a PMC in FULL marpat. Page 90 of this thread. I dont think it is issue marpat but it definitely looks like marpat. Link to post Share on other sites
Munitions Man Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Page 90 of this thread. I dont think it is issue marpat but it definitely looks like marpat. Thanks. It looks good, and it's distinctive from a Marine loadout. That would definitely work. Link to post Share on other sites
Fingers A.R.S.E. Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 page 90 for some reason my computers only showing 51 pages. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 That'll be your forum settings mate! Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 page 90 for some reason my computers only showing 51 pages. In that instance, check page 45. Link to post Share on other sites
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