Dickens Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Newly arrived over the weekend, my Full metal JG H&K 416. I used it for about 4 hours on Sunday and im very impressed to be honest. And i was very surprised to find a pre-wired MOSFET in the stock as well : ) i know a lot of people on here prefer the D boys 416 offering but i honestly cant find a fault with this gun (apart from the fact that the battery that comes with it is absolute ###### lol) Dickens Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Newly arrived over the weekend, my Full metal JG H&K 416. I used it for about 4 hours on Sunday and im very impressed to be honest. And i was very surprised to find a pre-wired MOSFET in the stock as well : ) i know a lot of people on here prefer the D boys 416 offering but i honestly cant find a fault with this gun (apart from the fact that the battery that comes with it is absolute ###### lol) Dickens Well, they're very nice internally, and nice externally - If you don't mind that it's not really an HK416. The receiver is wrong, the rail is wrong. The stock is wrong. It's very HK416-ish, but not 100% there. Here's my DBOYS HK416. Gorgeous externals (though the grey receiver is a bit odd) but horrendous internals. Luckily, I'm great with internals, so now it does 328fps exactly, hits a man-sized target at 30m every time and does 22rps on an 8.4v mini thanks to a home-built mosfet. I have a 14.5" barrel setup too, but I was testing the 10" this time round. Edited May 27, 2009 by DarkLite Link to post Share on other sites
christoff hitler Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 hi, does anyone know the fps for the jg full metal hk416 please? thanks Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 hi, does anyone know the fps for the jg full metal hk416 please? thanks Around 380-400fps. This really isn't the place to ask though, this is just a picture thread for H&K weapons. Link to post Share on other sites
christoff hitler Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) ok thanks Edited May 27, 2009 by christoff hitler Link to post Share on other sites
RC-1138 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c207/Wac...3a9439e54_o.jpg http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c207/Wac...053a63899_o.jpg I have a 14.5" barrel setup too, but I was testing the 10" this time round. There's a 416 buried under there?!?! Grrrr I'm making a stand with my 416, no M4-ish parts.... Link to post Share on other sites
Dickens Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I have to agree DarkLite, the body aint 100% there. But for me im not totally bothered, it looks like a H&K 416 so im happy lol And to Christoff hitler, i chrono'd mine on the weekend and it consistantly came in between 410-415 fps (little bit hot) Dickens Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 There's a 416 buried under there?!?! Grrrr I'm making a stand with my 416, no M4-ish parts.... Is the point of en H&K 416 not to replicate the ergonomics of an AR style weapon platform ? The real H&K has a standard stock tube for a reason! And it used regular rails for the purpose of being able to fit standard accessories already on the market. Link to post Share on other sites
RC-1138 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I understand that I just think burying a 416 under tons of parts more commonly associated with other M-type derivites defeats the purpose. It would be like paying a shoot ton money for a Lincenced Colt Bodied, RIS M4A1, and putting an HK416's barrel sight on it. Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 There's a 416 buried under there?!?! Grrrr I'm making a stand with my 416, no M4-ish parts.... I understand that I just think burying a 416 under tons of parts more commonly associated with other M-type derivites defeats the purpose. It would be like paying a shoot ton money for a Lincenced Colt Bodied, RIS M4A1, and putting an HK416's barrel sight on it. The HK416 is designed to be compatible with many armalite accessories for a very good reason. I set my 416 up for me. It is my rifle. I will be using it. I will make it easier, more comfortable and more effective for myself when I use it. This is how it is done. Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 The HK416 is designed to be compatible with many armalite accessories for a very good reason. I set my 416 up for me. It is my rifle. I will be using it. I will make it easier, more comfortable and more effective for myself when I use it. This is how it is done. I very much agree with this. If HK wanted it to be "individualized", they wouldn't have based the rifle on the Armalite system. Link to post Share on other sites
boka Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 This is my Dboys 416, and also my first post in any picture thread whatsoever. What do you guys think? (And yeah, I know, huge suppressor, I just couldn't resist) Link to post Share on other sites
RC-1138 Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I actually like the suppressor, gives it a kinda COD4 look that works lol Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I very much agree with this. If HK wanted it to be "individualized", they wouldn't have based the rifle on the Armalite system. I think they did that so they could sell it to the Americans. Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I think they did that so they could sell it to the Americans. They did it to sell the the us mil not to Civi Americans. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Last time I checked, the US Military is full of Americans. So what's your point? Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Didn't get them very far though, since the US mil hasn't taken any, apart from tests. Kinda makes Hedganian look right in the first place, as to why it was 'Americanised'. Edited May 31, 2009 by Kenworth W900 Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Didn't get them very far though, since the US mil hasn't taken any, apart from tests. Kinda makes Hedganian look right in the first place, as to why it was 'Americanised'. well not big sales at least. Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) US mil considers new weapons on their technical and practical merits aka their perfomance, they wouldn't care if the 416 was like the M4/M16 or not. Just like when they adopted the M16 over the M14, very different. Made sense for HK to base off proven system and then improve on it though doesn't it? Civi's like a familiar system however -when HK made the 416 they knew that a civi version would be made- so perhaps there is some incentive there. Until the MR series are out we won't know whether the merks, in general, like 'em anyway. Edited May 31, 2009 by Kenworth W900 Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 US mil considers new weapons on their technical and practical merits aka their perfomance, they wouldn't care if the 416 was like the M4/M16 or not. Just like when they adopted the M16 over the M14, very different. Made sense for HK to base off proven system and then improve on it though doesn't it? Civi's like a familiar system however -when HK made the 416 they knew that a civi version would be made- so perhaps there is some incentive there. Until the MR series are out we won't know whether the merks, in general, like 'em anyway. true about Mil not caring about looks, i mean check out the XM8 lol, but I'm still fumed Hk is making it with proprietary lowers Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Norway is using the 416, so I don't see how it was tailor made for us 'merkinz. Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) It wasn't tailor made to suit any nationality, it was tailor made to suit a soldier. In fact the opposite is true, they took an American weapon and 'Europeanised' it, in a fine HK sorta way, e.g. darker finish, more curvacious, more reliable, more expensive. But I think its fair to say that HK knew what they were doing when basing it off the Armalite system. They aren't idiots, they can see that America, one of the largest weapons trading markets (especially in high priced weapons) in the world is gonna like the look of a familiar/proven all-American system but with a sleek modern European finish and all the extra practicality/reliability that comes with European design. Afterall, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and the Americans are sure proud of their weapon designing capabilities. EDIT: Sorry, should add, this is just my two pennys regarding the situation. Edited June 1, 2009 by Kenworth W900 Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I thought it was common knowledge that the 416 was based on the AR system - an American system - after their "success" with the SA80 upgrade program H&K decided to do the same thing with the American M4/M16 series and thus was born the HK416/417. The fact that the US Armed Forces aren't buying many is probably down to the fact that they didn't actually contract H&K to make them in the first place, and they're not that much better than the Armashites they already own. Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Aye, and even if they are recognisably better, its still gonna take more than that to justify replacing the entire US militarys' M4/M16s, especially since the HK is more expensive. Link to post Share on other sites
RC-1138 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Aye, and even if they are recognisably better, its still gonna take more than that to justify replacing the entire US militarys' M4/M16s, especially since the HK is more expensive. And the fact that not everyone in the military even has an M4 yet. 90% of us didnt have M4's till this year. I was one of the few cadets that was issued and M4 (and I mean an M4, not M4A1) so the idea of getting another update in the near future really isn't in the cards lol. To bad, I would love a 416 for realz.... Link to post Share on other sites
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