uscmCorps Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 If I can remember to test it when I get home, I'll report back. One of my friends was using the Vickers base plates at a class we were all at this past Saturday. Those plates simply aren't my taste in terms of aesthetics. They're HUGE! I'd rather see 10-8 Performance come out with their own version of a Glock plate like they did for my M&P mags. Regarding Airsoft Glocks ... So while testing a WE G17, I liked the threaded extension so much that I decided I'd take advantage of it and get a longer TBB for it. Taking some measurements, I ordered a PDI Palsonite MEU barrel for it (113mm long). Installed it into the gun and it was the *perfect* coming to the end of the threaded barrel extension, but still a few mm shorter than the thread protector I use. I was stocked. Then I started testing the gun and realized my error. The way the threaded barrel and insert is designed, the TBB kept binding up on the inside. *sigh* oh well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 If I can remember to test it when I get home, I'll report back. One of my friends was using the Vickers base plates at a class we were all at this past Saturday. Those plates simply aren't my taste in terms of aesthetics. They're HUGE! I'd rather see 10-8 Performance come out with their own version of a Glock plate like they did for my M&P mags. Regarding Airsoft Glocks ... So while testing a WE G17, I liked the threaded extension so much that I decided I'd take advantage of it and get a longer TBB for it. Taking some measurements, I ordered a PDI Palsonite MEU barrel for it (113mm long). Installed it into the gun and it was the *perfect* coming to the end of the threaded barrel extension, but still a few mm shorter than the thread protector I use. I was stocked. Then I started testing the gun and realized my error. The way the threaded barrel and insert is designed, the TBB kept binding up on the inside. *sigh* oh well. Regarding the threaded extension, can't you get the piece to a lathe and just widen the inside of the adapter (It's binding up because the outer barrel can't tilt against the inner right?)? Or would that make it too thin and therefore being a (I assume) pot metal part it'll break? If you still want to use the loner inner barrel you can always dump money on the Lonewolf threaded barrel that Detonator makes (both in silver and black). Comes with a thread protector too, but pricey . As for the Vickers mag bases, I simply just want them to allow me to drop my mags base plate down and to not break easily. The Vicker's mag bases are made with reinforced plastic from what I remember so I SUPPOSE it'll be better than the airsoft stuff. I've got the nineball rubber ones but they don't secure really well against the magazine body such that once you drop the mags the base will slide 1/2 way off all the time..same with inserting a mag forcefully into the gun Anyway this is a picture thread so I'll keep my wordy posts to a minimum and post pics later Still have exams to go! D: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lazyshark Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 The KSC Glock's been out for ages and nobody's making reinforced parts for them, I doubt any company's gonna make them in the future. I just can't believe no one ever made a steel hammer for the newest version KSC. Oh well. One less upgrade part to fiend for I guess... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deacon31 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Loving the Glocks, am tempted to get a TM Glock 17, but am now in two minds after seeing the TM XDM. Has anyone got experience of both, with any advice on them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Both nice guns, both will give you similar performance. It's more a matter of which you prefer in regards to manual of arms and which you prefer the looks of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) The XDM is the newer (and therefore, in keeping with TM's policy of rarely - if ever - updating their guns (the new M9, at A1 specification, updates a pistol that is AT LEAST 12 years old)) also the more advanced design. It's got a truly awesome kick to it on propane as a result. However, being new there are fewer upgrade parts available (though the most important, an aluminium slide from Detonator, is already out) and frankly I think it's a very ugly gun, like a Glock that was described over the phone, with the resulting sketch being photocopied ten times before being handed to the engineers. Edited May 18, 2012 by PureSilver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 ... and frankly I think it's a very ugly gun, like a Glock that was described over the phone, with the resulting sketch being photocopied ten times before being handed to the engineers. L O L. So true though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrooklynBorn Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Very good. Im assuming the internals are identical to the gen 3s. Compared to the Maruis, my initial impressions are that the trigger is more crisp, the hammer and recoil springs are stiffer and the internals seem to be of better materials. Really?! Is this implying that it is on par, if not better, that a Marui G17? That's very surprising, although I have heard good things about the HK3P Px4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 If the HK3P G17 is the same as the WE G17 (just with different trades) then IMO it's comparable to the TM G17, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's better. I've worked on 3 WE G17s so far. They've all had minor hop up issues. The plastic's not quite as nice with more noticeable seam lines. The slides less refined than other aftermarket slide manufacturers and the paint on them is ACM quality. But they're good for the price and fixable for less money than a standard TM G17. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lazyshark Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Got a tlr-1s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 If the HK3P G17 is the same as the WE G17 (just with different trades) then IMO it's comparable to the TM G17, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's better. I've worked on 3 WE G17s so far. They've all had minor hop up issues. The plastic's not quite as nice with more noticeable seam lines. The slides less refined than other aftermarket slide manufacturers and the paint on them is ACM quality. But they're good for the price and fixable for less money than a standard TM G17. I would think that since WE's G17 most likely came from the same factory as the HK3P one, I'd say everything's the same bar the trades. Notice there's not HK3P G17 mags either; you can only get WE mags for them. Plastic's feel more 'brittle' than the plastic used on the HK3PX4 and the KSC Glock I've experienced but it's not that bad. The hop up issues...well I've never noticed it since I immediately swapped out the barrel and hop for a modify bucking and TK twist but it looks like some standard ACM brass barrel as opposed to the HK3PX4 which has a silver inner barrel. I think the inner frame have some dimensional differences as I needed to file down the top width of my GunsMod trigger sightly to get it to run smooth; has anyone installed it on a TM stock and required no filing or dremelling? Also, the seal between the mag gasket and the nozzle seem to be very far off; I'm thinking of getting the new Nineball purple gaskets for them soon and that might fix the issue. If you wanted a Glock for modding I highly suggest the WE G17 if everything's gonna be swapped out incl. the slide and frame. If you only want to swap the slide or don't mind running a slide that's gonna get paint rubbed off easily then the Hk3P's the better buy. I suggested the WE if you're gonna replace everything because it's actually cheaper than the HK3P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 KSC GLock 17 PGC grey metal slide KSC threaded outer barrel Optronics Red laser replica Element M3x flashlight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Photobucket app won't let me flip, ah well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lazyshark Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Yeah the new layout is buggy. Photobucket upload wouldn't popup for me I had to use the email upload feature. KSC threaded barrel? I didnt know they made those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobthebuilder Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 KJW G23 with Guarder G19 Steel Slide: how are the KJW G23's when it comes to reliablity and accuracy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Hunk Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Mine likes to convert to single action sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hey guys. Used to own a KWA G19 and loved it. After shooting some RS Glocks over the weekend (17 and 34) I'm in love again. Marui seems a bit hard to come by; how does the KWA/KSC stack up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleForceTactical Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hey guys. Used to own a KWA G19 and loved it. After shooting some RS Glocks over the weekend (17 and 34) I'm in love again. Marui seems a bit hard to come by; how does the KWA/KSC stack up? I love my KWA G19, its a epic bit of kit! I've shot Marui G17's and G18s and even RS G17s/G19s and I still love my KWA. One issue I have had is the BBU springs one has bent slightly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shardik Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 I've used KSC/KWA glocks for years. They have always been brilliant. You can't go wrong with one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 What do you do about parts nowadays? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lazyshark Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 aznriptide posted a guide up somewhere on the internet. Pretty much everything you want to know is there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vilerk Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) how are the KJW G23's when it comes to reliablity and accuracy? Mine worked fine until the valve knocker broke, this was close to 1000 rounds fired using propane, also including dry firing. Accuracy is decent since the hop up was a little consistent, but I replaced the rubber with a Nineball, and now it shoots pretty nice at 100 ft. The outer barrel requires occasional lubrication or else it will get jammed by the slide. Edited May 24, 2012 by vilerk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdizzle921 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Fitted my Guarder frame today after a few hours of filing.. TM G17 Guarder Slide Guarder Frame Guarder 150% Recoil Spring SF X300 I left out the slide release spring on the re-assembly as I just couldn't get it to seat inside the frame without restricting the trigger mechanism. Am I on the road to trouble by leaving that out? The gun functions exactly as it did without it, but I know it's obviously not there just for fun, it serves some sort of purpose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I left out the slide release spring on the re-assembly as I just couldn't get it to seat inside the frame without restricting the trigger mechanism. Am I on the road to trouble by leaving that out? The gun functions exactly as it did without it, but I know it's obviously not there just for fun, it serves some sort of purpose. The purpose is to hold the catch down until the mag pushes it up Since you won't be firing your gun upside down take a few shots with your Glock and see if the slide catch shifts upwards from the recoil. If it doesn't then it should be okay, bar any other events during a skirmish that can push the catch upwards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oRb Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) My Call of Duty TM Glock 18C GBB! A bit more tweaked than before. You can consider this as final. Specs: Tokyo Marui Glock 18C Semi / Auto GBB Based GunsModify Parts: CNC Aluminum Slide Kit For Marui Glock 18C (BK, BK Barrel), Extended Slide Stop, Lower Frame Series Tag & Tritium Night Sight Guarder Parts: Original Frame (OD), Steel Magazine Catch, Polycarbonate Loading Muzzle & Piston Lid FALCON 6.03 Precision Inner Barrel Set for Marui G17/G18C GBB (97.5mm) Firefly Cylinder Valve For Marui G18C GBB NINE BALL Parts: Air Seal Chamber Packing, Feather Weight Piston & Recoil Spring Guide PRO Shooters Design Parts: Hammer Spring, CNC Steel Valve Knocker, Steel Full Auto Sear 18C-60 & Magwell + Lanyard Hook Grip Force GEN 1 2 3 Kit Black Tokyo Marui Glock Series 25 Rounds Magazine with Guarder High Output Valve & Shooters Design TM G17 Magazine Base With Logo x4 Tokyo Marui Glock Series 50 Rounds Magazine with Guarder High Output Valve & Shooters Design TM G17 (+2) Magazine Base With Logo x2 Pics: The Nine Ball Feather CNC Plastic Cage is a really nice addition: Cheers orb Edited May 26, 2012 by oRb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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