kenxin Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well, since it's understandable that some people are worried about weight and cycling I did weight the two...let's get nerdy! 778.8 corresponds to the Gunsmodify, 757.3 corresponds to the ACE 1. A few things to note: - The gunsmodify has the steel lonewolf type extended slide lock included in the pack. - The gunsmodify has the zero hammer (steel), vs the marui one on the ACE 1 - The gunsmodify has the adjustable trigger vs the plastic marui on the ACE 1 - The gunsmodify one has steel sights vs the aluminum ones on the ACE 1 - The gunsmodify has a steel barrel vs the aluminum one on the ACE 1 - The gunsmodify has a guarder frame vs the marui one on the ACE 1 - The gunsmodify one has a marui brass inner barrel vs the stainless steel one on the ACE 1 To give a broader comparison, I weighted my G17 with an old 7075 slide and detonator sights (steel) and threaded barrel (aluminum with steel thread cap) and gunsmodify old adjustable trigger (lighter than the SAI one), marui magwell and nineball .03 stainless inner barrel. No other parts changed...782.3g So coming in as the most lightweight: Ace 1. 21.5 g later comes the gunsmodify and in last place, my trusty ol' G17 25g heavier. Incredible job gunsmodify did keeping the weight down EVEN with a steel barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thanks for the info! Looks like I'll be queuing up for the black G17 GunsModify slide set when it's released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squad 701 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) @ Kenxin & JCheeseright I couldn't help myself, had to return and look at those photos again @ Kenxin - I love the fake second frame pin on the newer Guarder frames @ Puresilver - I don't think a Black Finish will come anywhere near the Costa FDE/Silver colour combination, especially Ceracoated. But if you must it's scheduled for release just before the Chinese New-Year Edited January 14, 2014 by Squad 701 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Depends on whether or not the black one's CeraKote'd, I guess. I'm just not a fan of coloured-in pistols, although the FDE/OD combination on the previous page was quite pretty. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fabio Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 No where as near as nice as the SAI Glocks on here. RMR mounted onto a Stock Marui Slide 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 DIY aye? I'd be worried of that thing flying into my face from recoil. How did you mount it anyhow? A little heads up on the gunsmodify RMR set, it's INCREDIBLY sensitive to sear wear. since the trigger bar gunsmodify provides is slightly longer: TM: Guarder: gunsmodify: As you can see, guarder being guarder it's the shortest. That's why sometimes the trigger bar they provide makes the sear don't catch the hammer. As it turns out, I had my sear fitted to a guarder trigger bar before knowing the trigger bar was included in the package, since I've been waiting for this thing since september, and once installed the slide set had some difficulty cycling and some poking around revealed the trigger bar putting incredible pressure on the BBU. A slight sanding of the sear caused this so I'd recommend getting a steel sear that won't be damaged. Or if your TM is brand new and noone has fitted a guarder trigger bar you should be good for life. After switching to a very old and used standard marui sear, the slide cycles perfectly. Images courtesy of GM and their review of the SAI set. Anyone care to request any specific comparison pics between the ACE1 and the GM? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fabio Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I originally planned it out so the screws went through the slide but that didn't work out. As bad as it sounds it's heavy duty glued on, next job is to cut the slide underneath to get access to the battery, which looking at it now I should of done first. Didn't fancy using a mount since I wanted it as low on the slide as possible while retaining the rear sight also. Anyone know of a brand of high suppressor sights that fit Marui Glocks? Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 A crappy attempt at the waffle-iron pattern stippling on my G17 lower. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 A few pictures of the wear that has started appearing on the cerakote... I thought it'd be stronger. The more experts should be able to tell if this kind of wear is normal for such low level of use (100-ish rounds, probably less). Now the barrel, now the barrel is another matter entirely..... As you can see, not a scratch on the finish, not even on the underside with the stainless steel recoil spring.... colour me impressed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danke Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 All together! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild_XIII Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 A quick and dirty pic of the brothers. How the chrome slide didn't give me away last time I used it, I don't know. I'm tempted to take off the wings both sides of the beavertail on the 17. The left one interferes with using the slide release as it sits right where my thumb wants to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danke Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'd just ditch the thumb rest and get a beavertail if you like the fatter feel. I did some cutting down of a TM rest and it's not pretty; the soft plastic isn't happy about that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 All together! What frame is that on? WE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danke Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 No it's the HK3. Same as WE but with the Glock trademark; so it says made in Austria instead of Taiwan for example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 No it's the HK3. Same as WE but with the Glock trademark; so it says made in Austria instead of Taiwan for example. Boo. I wish Guarder would do a Gen4 frame, even if the TM Gen3 slide isn't kosher for a Gen4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danke Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Costs less than the Guarder and is a total drop in for the TM parts. http://www.airsoftglobal.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=634_223&products_id=15921 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Has anyone had a WE frame go kaput on them yet? Is it reinforced on the front screw like the guarder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 A bit more SAI porn. This time it's an AS g35 set vs the GM 17 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Longshot I know but does anyone know where I can get some mags for my Tanaka G17C GBB? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Tokyo Marui Glock 17 Shooter's Design G17 Slide and Outer Barrel GunsModify Steel Take Down Bar PDI .01 TBB NineBall Hop Up Bucking AKA BBH (24g!) Airsoft Surgeon Super Hard Loading Nozzle Guarder Steel Spring Guide Guarder 150% Recoil Spring NineBall Gas Route Buckings x3 Marui Night Sights Have a Future Energy steel trigger bar and Shooter's Design steel valve knocker in the tool box just in case. Also, someone shot out my TLR-1s. Edited January 24, 2014 by Roland1014 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bucko Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 SHE'S ALIVE!!! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squad 701 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 At last, finishing with the Glock 26, all the TM/KJW Glock frames are available fully trademarked in both Austrian and US variations. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squad 701 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 @ NonEx Stark/VFC & Detonator/Guarder Glock 19s. The lights is just gone here, so everything is looking a bit too bright due to ISO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Hmmm... Those mold lines around the grip panel on the Guarder frame is killing me. Overlay in PS shows the stuff ligns up pretty well though. Might just have to drop the 30 USD on the Guarder frame and see if I can cram the VFC internals in there, just for fun (OCD fun) Just to clarify, even though the mold lines are bad, the grip texture panel on the Guarder is closer to an RS Glock so that's why I wanna try it. Edited February 4, 2014 by NonEx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squad 701 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Hmmm... Those mold lines around the grip panel on the Guarder frame is killing me. Well considering what these frames are replacing, KJW and Very Shiny Tokyo Marui ones, I'm not complaining I think all the Guarder G19 frames are the same, but it mightn't be as evident on the Euro version that was released a lot later, you'll have to examine the photos yourself, as I'm only viewing them on a phone, but here is the link : http://www.intrudershop.com/show_product.asp?idproduct=2128#top Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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