wolfgeorge Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Prime ZEV DragonflyI did a quick assembly of this beautiful slide, I'm amazed by the quality and finish!The finish is simply amazing and it was a drop in fit, very rare these days!It's highly recommended kit fellas... If you can find it ... BUY it!Now I have to finish the G17L and BLU... Wolf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Have one myself, excellent quality! Just waiting for the zev trigger that ready fighter is releasing soon, the zev magwell and the mag release is on its way:) What inner barrel length do you have wolf? Tried a 138mm barrel and it didn't work, the 113 MM. from maple leaf had also some issues, have currently a stock TM G34 inner barrel installed. Edited July 6, 2016 by Dj_komodo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I've installed a Ace1 6.01 barrel that came with the threaded SAI barrel, I didn't measure it up.. It fit's OK. It's about G34 length. Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Quick question for the lazy, Are guarder steel parts like the frame and hammer housing for the KJW G23 compatible with the WE G19? I traded recently for a gen 4 WE and would like to know. I also need a new slide for it (due to the previous owners *suitcasey* paint job) and if the internal steel parts are compatible, should I also get a steel slide or will an alu slide last just fine? Worried about corrosion mostly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) I will be able to answer that question in maybe 2 weeks time or so as I am building a custom KJW x Guarder Glock 19 from scratch with all those parts and I am also curious to see if I can make those parts work in a WE G19 build. I would suspect though that the WE is closer to the TM than the KJW is and so that you may actually want the TM spec inner frame and hammer assembly... I will post back here once I know about the KJW parts though. DJ should have a bit of insight as he has built a custom KJW x Guarder Glock recently. Not sure if he tried the parts in a WE setup though. Edited July 6, 2016 by NonEx 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Fairly sure after much playing around its this way round: KJW and TM parts are completely interchangeable. We parts are nearly all slightly larger. Bigger frame, bigger nozzle, bigger BBU, lots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I do know some kjw parts are kjw only, some kjw is tm spec some is not. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 KJW g23 and we g19 are not 100% compatible. KJW G23 slides will not work on we g19, KJW g23 frames will not work on the WE G19. I have a full steel KJW G23 and a regular HK3P (WE) G19, i can test the steel hammer components on the WE G19 tomorrow but I can guess that it isn't a drop in fit. I highly recommend that you stick with one brand and one type of metal:) Ace 1 arms makes pretty good g19 slides for the we g19 (i have the agency and the sai slide), if you want a traded WE g19 frame you can talk to jessica at Kic airsoft and she can get one for you. Ask for a Hk3P G19 frame (gen3) or a HK3P G23 frame (gen 4). You can even get a HK3P G19 slide if you want a slide with correct g19 markings, but that will cost you a few bucks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Iirc tm guarder fcg needs filing to fit in a we/HK springs but you don't want tm springs because we/HK are stronger. A stiffer tm spring is an OEM we spring Edited July 6, 2016 by Alias1983 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I bought and tried the Guarder trigger parts in a WE Glock 19 and it did not work out of the box. Also FYI KIC no longer supply trademarked Glocks of any kind, not even on special order. Thanks Cybergun... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Well, that's not good. The main thing I wanted to do was stuff in a volante BBU. Is at least that possible? Or will I need to pick up a certain spec slide? All in all though, I'm willing to do the work to make the parts fit. If the WE frame is too big for a TM spec slide fitment, I'll get some lapping compound and make it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mitsu Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I'm using a WE g17 Hop-up in my KJW g23, however, needs to be cut-down length wise and cut a new lockup for the slide, and kjw barrel is a bit fat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Latest projects Guarder steel G34 WE G17 w Ace 1 Arms Agency kit (tried to do a wear look) Stark Arms G42 with steel slide and ace 1 arms accessories (yes, that is dirt embedded in the markings, hard to get out) 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Try a sharpened toothpick. Sometimes helps to dampen the area a little, but just a little. Wish we could get the G42 here. Whats the hole in the front of the trigger guard? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Starting to look nice and worn. Still need a 43. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 It's not a hole it's a mould mark if I remember rightly. Don't remember it being that noticeable on mine though! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Toothpick is a good tip to remove dirt from the markings. Also some modeling clay pressed in and removed (Swedish "Häftmassa") works well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katotaka Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 hmmm how about blutack? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerhund79 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) My first build. A Tokyo Marui Glock 17, Guarder frame and RWA Agency Arms Urban Combat Pistol slide kit. It really was a drop-in fit, but that doesn´t take away the fact that my ham-fistedness made this a nightmare to install, but the end result is a beauty and it runs super smooth. Cheers to NonEx for his youtube videos on frame disassmbly and re-assembly. They really helped with some bits that I wasn´t sure about doing unaided. Edited July 14, 2016 by Tigerhund79 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Nice build man! Glad you found my videos useful Here's the playlist in case anyone wants to have a look: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz5FTS2XoXatoT6YxrK09RsZEzZr0sGvt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Toothpick is a good tip to remove dirt from the markings. Also some modeling clay pressed in and removed (Swedish "Häftmassa") works well. The markings are so thin and deep so the toothpick will not fit, but I will try the clay:) with my luck the clay will get stuck in the markings as well. Thanks for the tip though:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 You could try a toothbrush with some silicone oil as lube. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 The markings are so thin and deep so the toothpick will not fit, but I will try the clay:) with my luck the clay will get stuck in the markings as well. Thanks for the tip though:) Well when I used the clay I just dab it on like a lightning strike fast. *dab dab dab dab* When press it in, take it off, roll it over. Trust me the markings on my custom engraved WE P228 are worse then those on your G42 kit And yes, toothbrush or nylon brush also works. Just don't rub it with a t-shirt or a micro fiber cloth. Just gunks it up even more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 trust me bro, my markings are thinner and deeper than yours;) Tested the putty and it worked pretty good, 85% of the dirt is gone, great tip bro! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 "The 2016 "Sharp Markings" battle! DJ_komodo vs. NonEx Who has the most unremovable dirt in their impossibly thin laser engraved markings? STAY TUNED TO FIND OUT!" No but seriously, mine are worse 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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