uscmCorps Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) All you're doing is bending it so that it tilts downwards more, and therefore pushes the bucking further into the chamber evenly. The alternate method of wrapping the bar with PTFE tape is something I've heard others do and essentially thickens the bar in small amounts so that it pushes down more. You might want to try that instead. If your need for the gun is target shooting, CQB or generally engagements that don't have to reach out too far, the gun will be fine as is. If you need it as a primary or as a backup in an outdoor terrain (or generally any AO in which you have longer engagements) then out of the box, the hopup is pretty weak sauce based off the three WE's I've worked on. Another option is to try out the recently released REAPS bucking which allegedly extends your range significantly. I've got one, just haven't had a chance to install it yet. Half my TM and WE Glocks are light striking for some bizarre reason. Edited July 5, 2012 by uscmCorps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gijohn2 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Your post makes sense until you actually look at the arm, As soon as you start to bend the arm downwards the whole arm becomes uneven on the one side whilst the other part remains the same height. Im pretty sure that will give the BB a even worse trajectory then it had at the start Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 I use needle nose pliers to ensure that it bends evenly. The bar is essentially an inverted "L" shape. I bend the horizontal portion of the bar that is to the rear of the vertical bar. I don't bend the entire bar from the front of the bar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Anyone know if the KSC/KWA Glocks are compatible with real Glock sights? They are. Used a bead front sight and an adjustable rear sight for my G34. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Freakin sweet. Now to decide between the 10-8 sights, Meprolights, or Tijicon HD sights. Tempted to go with the 10-8's since that's what I use on my RS guns. BTW, how's the fit of the RS sights into the KSC Glock? Is it tight/loose, etc? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 They both fit very well; the front bead sight I had to use a mallet to hit it into the slide though. Shame, someone needs to figure out to fit RS sights to TM Glocks lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katotaka Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=searchItem&item=STARKA-PS-S18C-BS&search=special&rs=stark&catid=&cat= Just FYI, this accepts RS sights and is Marui-compatible to some degree and about hop up bar shimming, I saw on a Taiwan airsoft forum that A+ Studio suggests WE users to shim the hop up bar to use with REAPS bucking, and a thin plastic sheet is included with REAPS bucking ( which is very very small and easy to lose ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Genome Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 @uscmCorps When I had my WE gen 4 G17 for a short period of time I was able to shoot it and I also experience the same problem where it light strike and the trigger problem. Instead of not locking back after the last shot I had it where the trigger would not reset when the trigger is not pressed to the rear. It would hang on something inside and would not reset unless I physically pushed the trigger back in the ready position or pull the slide back slightly. The problem that I think is the trigger bar not being long enough or is getting hung up by something inside. Is yours a Gen 4? I would think it may be the frame doing this. The light strike problem also accord a few times on the WE. Most glocks encounter this problem though. New aftermarket one will probably be needed to rid the problem. So far on my new TM G17 I have not had light striking issues *kncoks on IKEA wood* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodsword Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 My TMG17 monster: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Im going space Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Dont think i posted this here :/ Generic Tapatalk Signature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eizen Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 My TM G17 with Streamlight TLR-3. The trigger safety is to be fixed. I got a HK G17 on its way too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eizen Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Sorry for the double post. I already posted this in the reviews section but thought that it could be informative in here, too. I got the HK G17 Gen3 version today and I must say I am really disappointed with it. I got it because my TM G17 has some strange issues randomly and I can't trust it 100%. HK G17 is just dull. The hop up is very poor compared to Marui's and the slide doesn't lock back when the mag is out of BBs. Even if it is full of gas! Also you have to push down the slide when you rack it, to make sure that it activates the trigger! If anyone has any suggestions how to solve the slide not locking back I am all ears. I shot around 6 mags through it. Only +1 for HK is that it fits my Crye Gunclip better than the Marui. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 A little update on my KSC G19. *snip* KSC G19 w/ full gripreduction and stipple PGC Slide kit G34 Slide release G17 smooth trigger w/shortened pull Milliput beavertail Glock tritium frontsight (need to find a higher someday) China Docter sight Surefire X300 Somehow I missed this the first time around. This is a great looking piece. Did you do the modifications yourself? I'm especially curious about the installation of the Docter Sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beta08 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Sneak preview... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 RMR? Is it mounted ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beta08 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Yessir, RMR. It's just sitting on top until I make a mount for it and mill the slide or find an easier option. *Le Edit: Anyone know of any TM-compatible suppressor- or extra-tall iron sights that would allow a co-witness with the RMR? Edited July 13, 2012 by beta08 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Hey guys, didn't think starting a new thread for a few quick questions would be efficient so I figured I 'd ask it here. I'm looking to finally get into the Glock game with a G34, and I was wondering about a few things. First I was looking on using this kit: http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=32341 And I wasn't sure if I'd need new springs, and if those springs would need to be G17 or G34 sized. Second, do you guys feel it would be better to start off with a WE G17 and upgrade it or get a Marui G17 and leave it mostly alone. The price difference is fairly significant so I'd like to stick with the WE, but I know that budget builds are rarely best in the long run. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 The g34 uses the same spring setup as the g17, so no problem there. I'd recommend a guarder enhanced recoil spring set (thou I don't use the hammer spring) for a snappy recoil The fitting on the prime kit is perfect for the marui (except a little filing to the bbu required) so I'd recommend to start with the marui. On builds, always use the best you can afford. What's the point of a prime kit if you use it on a WE? (a platform that costs less than the kit itself). Besides the fitting and tolerances of the we aren't the best (and the trigger is a little gritty, at least the ones I've handled). Also, you might want to wait for the guarder g34 kit coming "soon" (whenever that is) if you want to go the cheap route or steel route (check intrudershop's website). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 The g34 uses the same spring setup as the g17, so no problem there. I'd recommend a guarder enhanced recoil spring set (thou I don't use the hammer spring) for a snappy recoil The fitting on the prime kit is perfect for the marui (except a little filing to the bbu required) so I'd recommend to start with the marui. On builds, always use the best you can afford. What's the point of a prime kit if you use it on a WE? (a platform that costs less than the kit itself). Besides the fitting and tolerances of the we aren't the best (and the trigger is a little gritty, at least the ones I've handled). Also, you might want to wait for the guarder g34 kit coming "soon" (whenever that is) if you want to go the cheap route or steel route (check intrudershop's website). Thanks for the excellent reply! I suppose I'll start saving for the Marui, and if the guarder kit comes out before I finish I'll go with that. Externals don't bother me too much, I just want a quality G34, so as long as the Prime kit gets it done I doubt I'll mind much. So, this should suffice for the recoil spring, yes?: http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/parts-upgrade-pistol/springs-spring-guides/guarder-enhanced-steel-recoil-spring-guide-for-marui-g17.html And are there any other required/highly recommended upgrades that I should worry myself with from the start? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 That recoil spring and guide is exactly what I have in mine, so yes. Any other upgrades depend on what you want the 34 to be, is it gonna go racegun route? is it gonna be a reproduction of a standard 34? If it's a racegun you might want a lightweight bbu and the zero hammer (note I don't have experience with the zero hammer)? the gunsmodify trigger is excellent no matter what you want to do with it. Also from gunsmodify the extended slide stop is an interesting upgrade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yessir, RMR. It's just sitting on top until I make a mount for it and mill the slide or find an easier option. *Le Edit: Anyone know of any TM-compatible suppressor- or extra-tall iron sights that would allow a co-witness with the RMR? Very cool. Curious to hear how it'll go with the TM slide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beta08 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Thanks dude. It's my buddie's RMR but once mine comes in I'll get to work... I can't imagine it being that hard. Also, it's an HK3P believe it or not. Having owned 2 upgraded TM's before I am insanely impressed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 That recoil spring and guide is exactly what I have in mine, so yes. Any other upgrades depend on what you want the 34 to be, is it gonna go racegun route? is it gonna be a reproduction of a standard 34? If it's a racegun you might want a lightweight bbu and the zero hammer (note I don't have experience with the zero hammer)? the gunsmodify trigger is excellent no matter what you want to do with it. Also from gunsmodify the extended slide stop is an interesting upgrade. Well my main goal is that of a workhorse gun, as I play at least every other week. My stock KJW Hicapa does a great job at the CQB arena where I play, so similar or better performance would be nice. All I'm really looking for is something that is gonna last a long time with decent aesthetics and performance. I suppose I'm most concerned about keeping the Marui accuracy and retaining decent gas efficiency. Only external change I'm currently planning is a micro dot to replace the rear sight, if I don't find myself satisfied with the regular sights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vilerk Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Guarder KJW G19 trademarked frames are out, sort of. http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/product_info.php/products_id/3265. And a bunch of other stuff coming soon including G34 slides, an extended slide stop, steel G19 inner frame, etc. http://www.intrudershop.com.tw/commingsoon_eng.asp. It's a good day to be a G19 owner. Edited July 13, 2012 by vilerk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squad 701 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 A few shots here of the Guarder/Guarder/KJ Glock 19 and the KSC/RA Tech Glock 19 for comparrison. The difference between the original KJ frame and the new trademarked Guarder frame is 22g heavier for the Guarder (66/88) Total weight for Guarder with aluminium slide and SD mag-release is 710g. The KSC/RA Tech is much heavier due to steel-slide at 988g, but again will function much better with a PGC barrel. Not too much problem installing the Guarder frame bar trying to keep the serial-number plate under the frame in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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