Got Wood? Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 No, not really. I like cool service pistols, unmodified. It kills you just as dead. Imo, while slide cuts, rmrs and stipling can be cool, they're mostly needed in competition. Same here. While I don't knock anyone tricking out their guns, for me it's all about creating realistic looking department/service issued weapons 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 If I had big enough brasses to modify my service pistol (G17 for those unfamiliar), the most I'd consider doing would maybe constitute upgrading the sights and maybe an extended slide lock lever and a mag well... maybe. I've seen how quickly Glock frames start to fail under light military usage though, you definitely don't want to be *fruitcage* up the plastic even more before you've even started carrying/using the thing. That's the cool thing about airsoft though, you can make your shooter as trick as you like in true 3-gun style and enjoy the variety without any dire potential consequences. Are the Glocks still considered superior to the Sigs even taking into account the limited lifespan of the frame? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Only time I seen a gseries frame fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 Are the Glocks still considered superior to the Sigs even taking into account the limited lifespan of the frame? Iirc main factor in the switch was that you could get two full Glock kits with spare mags and accessories for the price of one P226. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 I saw a picture of .40 Glock that had a cartrige that was only partially in the chamber detonate and blew the magazine out of the pistol and gas blew through the grip panel behind the trigger guard. Shooters hand was damaged. I've heard tell that there have been a few of these with the .40 as the the round is so short and stubby that you can have failure to fully chamber (not just in the Glock) and have a detonation. It has also happened with metal framed pistols but the metal frame protected the shooters hand better (some wood grip panels did split and caused splinters). In 40+ years of shooting real steel, it's one of the only calibers I've not been interested in at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted April 4, 2016 Report Share Posted April 4, 2016 It says a lot when DEVGRU and CAG, two units that have the option to choose just about any handgun and caliber they want, elect to use the Glock 19 as their preferred sidearm. The SIG is a great gun. It's hefty making it slightly easier to control the recoil, has a smooth DA/SA trigger and once cocked the SA is nice, light and short. Those are also things that work against it in some people's eyes. The gun has a higher bore axis which makes the recoil more noticeable than a lower bore axis gun (like the Glock). So the benefits of the added weight in the SIG can be argued as being negated by the greater felt recoil. To most military guys, every ounce counts and having extra weight to carry around in a 9mm side arm is not ideal. Even the SIG mags are lot heavier. So weight-wise the Glock wins. I mentioned the trigger: Having taught shooters, including LEOs, many of whom have chosen the SIG as their preferred handgun, I can't tell you how many times I've had to remind some of them to de-cock their SIGs when reholstering. And that is during training on a square range with zero actual threats present. You can imagine how often they might forget about that in a life threatening engagement. Some people would say what's the big deal about that? Well with the hammer back, the trigger is now set to SA with an extremely short and light trigger press needed to fire the gun. And that's how negligent discharges are more likely to happen. In fact I'd rather see a 1911 cocked with the safety off in the holster than a SIG cocked in the holster because at least the 1911 has a grip safety that still needs to be defeated to fire the gun. Reliability-wise, both the SIG and the Glock Gen3 9mm series have been proven to be reliable systems. The Gen4 Glocks had some initial issues but those have seemed to be addressed. Cost, the Glock and its additional spare mags are a lot cheaper than the SIG. The Glock has a lot more aftermarket support. Like I said, both are great weapon systems. I just think the Glock has more going for it as a combative and/or defensive firearm. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted April 8, 2016 Report Share Posted April 8, 2016 WE G19 with Ace 1 Arms SAI & Agency Arms slides. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 /end thread. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_komodo Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 WE SAI G17, KSC G17, Stark Arms G17, KSC G17 TM "Guarder" G34 (steel slide), Stark Arms G42 (steel slide), WE/HK3P G18C TM "Guarder" G26 (steel slide), WE ZEV G26 HK3P G19, WE G19 (Agency Arms), WE G19 (SAI), KJW G23 (Guarder kit), KSC G19, Stark Arms G19, KJW G19 (Stainless steel slide), WE G19 (SAI) /end thread 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I can't use the I key with the new style hopup unit and arm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarsdenH Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Maple leaf has the "F" key for the new style hopup units. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alias1983 Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Maple leaf has the "F" key for the new style hopup units.I seen it advertised for vfc stuff so I wasn't sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 KJ Works with Guarder G19 slide, Guarder lower frame, Guarder outer barrel and Guarder black inner tightbore barrel. Missing the trigger safety which I need to find. KJ Works with Guarder slide, lower frame, mag extension, black inner barrel and outr barrel. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Both beauts. The KJW variant is one of the best ones out there. I'm just waiting for my two slides back from JTAC and then I'll have two finished works Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 they are easy to work on and clones of the mauri system so lots of bits fit. I need a few more magazine base plates with the Glock logo and then these will be finished. next to be built will be a engraved 32 ad I'll like to do a 43 but I don't know if there is an unengraved 42 out there that could be used as a base. I'm also working on a unique 17 which I'll post up here once it's finished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Beat you to it my 32 should be finished by end of next week hopefully, and my Gen2 USA 25. I did want to make a 38 but the slide is wider than the frame on those Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I've got a 32 KJ works metal slide here without markings but it has compensator cuts in the top. You going for the compensated slide or something different? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Got Wood? Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 No just standard. One I've got to replicate an LEO trade in, the other is just a standard gen3 G32 in tan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 TM Glock 18C with Shooter Design slide. The machining on the Shooter design slides are fantastic and really easy to install. Accessories are all FAB defense. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bradnuts Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) I couldn't decide between a gen 2 or gen 3 frame for my kj glock 19. So in the spirit that is airsoft, I bought both guarder frames! Went from this... Nice and simple. To this... Super tacticool! ETA.. wow.. sorry for the crappy quality pics! I'll try take some better ones soon. Edited April 17, 2016 by bradnuts 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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PureSilver Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Super tacticool! The BUIS on the A1A RMR mount are so pants-on-head retarded it's actually kind of impressive. That's a sight radius of what - 1.8"/4.5cm? Even a Detonics has considerably more than twice that; the factory Glock 19 has considerably more than triple that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bradnuts Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 PureSilver, at first glance the rmr mount, which is a copy of the Dueck Defense RBU, seems a bit silly. But when you consider that they are exactly that, BACK UP iron sights, they work for their intended purpose. If your dot goes down you can at least aim and make decent hits. I've read one review of the real mount that said 25 yard effective hits are no issue and the super short sight radius isn't as bad as it may seem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 ok I've went a bit glock mad! found a fully trade marked Doctor sight on aliexpress And found a couple of Safariland 6354DO holsters (1 is 17/22 and the other is 19/23) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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