millest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 im looking at doing a light weight acu loadout (i currently run my acu with a maritime ciras - dont ask lol) but im finding the plate carrier a bit hot and very stiff. i was wondering what recommendations that are in fitting with current issue gear people have. ive seen this: http://news.soc.mil/RangerRendezvous%2007/...A-2599B-015.jpg and wondered is it lighter and flexible enough to work? if so what is it? also completely randomly as well does anyone know if usa troops working with the UN have been deployed in acu? ive looked and looked but to date found nothing as id be interested in seeing a un acu loadout thanks millest Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 as its standard... id suggest yes... The cut off fingers on nomex gloves? does that really help? i dont seem to have any problem with my trigger finger covered.... Quick q; whats a standard infantrymans load on his/her otv? how many mags? what else? Link to post Share on other sites
Edmiles Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 The cut off fingers on nomex gloves? does that really help? i dont seem to have any problem with my trigger finger covered.... I've been wondering the same thing for a while, almost every RS picture of US ground forces using them seems to have the trigger finger cut off so there's gotta be a reason... Right? Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 It does really help if the trigger's wet or if the glove is slick. It also helps in the cold (your finger freezes to the trigger! LOLZ!). Not so much of a help in airsoft, but when firing real guns the advantage is obvious. Link to post Share on other sites
Carter Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Millest: It is the Eagle Industries RRV in Ranger Green. It is basically a chest rig, so yes, it will be much more flexible then your CIRAS. I have seen many pictures of Ranger franken-vests containing RRV front, MBSS back, and a cummerbund. Link to post Share on other sites
ilikeshootingstuff Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 The Army should have spent the money, saved the lives and bought multicam Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Are there any pics circulating around of Army personell wearing an ACU top and woodland bottoms? Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 The Army should have spent the money, saved the lives and bought multicam Cool and original statement. Link to post Share on other sites
chillindrdude Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 cool weather night operations Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 as its standard... id suggest yes... The cut off fingers on nomex gloves? does that really help? i dont seem to have any problem with my trigger finger covered.... It's retarted, if your wearing NOMEX gloves then you think there is a reasonable suspicion that you are going to get burned and that is plain retarted to make a flame resistant glove pointless by taking off the finger. chillindrdude, nice target on your head..LOL. Always shoot for the light.. but nice loadout. In some of those pics of the RANGERS you see RANGER Green PACA's. Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 The Army should have spent the money, saved the lives and bought multicam Multicam is better than ACU but is still not that great, also if they had MULTICAM it would not have made much difference, the ARMY has lost the lives it has lost due to bad SOP's, haveing the most personel in country, trying to manage the most hostile and turbulant AO in the country, and to IED blasts. It has absolutely nothing to due with what camo they are wearing. As far as I have seen Multicam will burn off of a body just as quick as ACU will after a 5000 pound bomb goes off underneath a poorly armored vehicle. That was the most ignorant statement I have ever read and is just plain asinine. If the Army had to spend more money it would have been on better armored vehicles, not some gucciflauge ######. Sometimes Airsofters amaze me, Multicam or ACU in IRAQ makes no difference and in the middle of a desert with no cover and or concelment to speak of...what camo you are wearing is failry irrelevant in that situation and in vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites
demoncase Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 what camo you are wearing is failry irrelevant in that situation and in vehicles. Nonsense!... I'd die of shame if I wasn't wearing the most fashionable camoflague, dahlings The US Army needs to start thinking fabulous Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Yes true..buyt lets say the army is in conflict in a jungle/temperate climate enxt thats when the camofluage will start taking lives...right now tho camo aint gonna have much to do with it...as insurgents wait till you are right at them, or they attack the vehicles.... Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 if anything, acu is fairly good for deserts.... As it has been said. What claims lives, is ieds and ambushes... plates dont stop explosives, and even when they do, the pressure is the killer, not always shrapnell or literally being blown up.... the modified humvees arent suitable for the job, thier not apcs.... Iraq is the new vietnam, and tbh, the only way to reduce the loss of life, is pulling out... Its not a winable situation... I truely feel for the service men and women out there doing thier job with poor kit... and lets face it, they ahvent got the best stuff... and no camoflage will help.... Reaper16: i dont see your problem with ca ar15s ala your sig... I love mine Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Multicam is better than ACU but is still not that great, also if they had MULTICAM it would not have made much difference, the ARMY has lost the lives it has lost due to bad SOP's, haveing the most personel in country, trying to manage the most hostile and turbulant AO in the country, and to IED blasts. It has absolutely nothing to due with what camo they are wearing. As far as I have seen Multicam will burn off of a body just as quick as ACU will after a 5000 pound bomb goes off underneath a poorly armored vehicle. That was the most ignorant statement I have ever read and is just plain asinine. If the Army had to spend more money it would have been on better armored vehicles, not some gucciflauge ######. Sometimes Airsofters amaze me, Multicam or ACU in IRAQ makes no difference and in the middle of a desert with no cover and or concelment to speak of...what camo you are wearing is failry irrelevant in that situation and in vehicles. You have no idea how good it makes me feel that I'm not wading through the stupid on my own. Listen to this man, he does this for real. Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt-McKenzie Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I don't know if ACU saved lives or not, but it's quite a good camo for Iraq city/walls environment (at least in the pictures). Even better when it begins to be dirty. Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 its perfect for where they are... but it wont hold true when the US leaves the middle east.... oshi... Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Anyway, as to not get this thread locked, are there any mounts besides the L-Mount for the AP used on a modern US Army M4A1? Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 i know its from the first page, but... NEVER put your rifle on the deck! great looking gear though wesker, never knew you did an army loadout... thought you were USMC only -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
LawVol Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 My ranger-ish loadout. I've always been anti-helmet, but it looks like I need a mich. Excuse the chicken wing... ACU was clearly designed to be used in the woods in Tennessee during winter... Link to post Share on other sites
FaRKle Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 its perfect for where they are... but it wont hold true when the US leaves the middle east.... ACU works quite well in greener areas too. Works well year-round for me here in Cali. Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 greener? as in greener desert? because everyone who uses it in temperate woodland here in the uk looks like right muppets... Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 greener? as in greener desert? because everyone who uses it in temperate woodland here in the uk looks like right muppets... QFT. ACU works NOWHERE in the UK, not even in Urban... it made me chuckle when one of the guys in Multicam at Longmoor said to the one of the ACU chaps " Don't worry mate, we'll show you the ONLY building in the UK where your camo works", and it was true. Never seen it work anywhere else Back on topic, I was chatting to two US Army guys ( or rather, one guy who was just leaving ) and he says they are switching to MC in 2010! What the hell?! Spend all that money on getting ACU'd up to the nines, then switch four years later?! I'd actually like to see some more regular US Army loadouts even though I don't like the camo, everyone seems to obssessed with SF/Rangers etc... Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 ill put my reg inf up soon... i dislike sf loadouts tbh Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Back on topic, I was chatting to two US Army guys ( or rather, one guy who was just leaving ) and he says they are switching to MC in 2010! What the hell?! Spend all that money on getting ACU'd up to the nines, then switch four years later?! I'd actually like to see some more regular US Army loadouts even though I don't like the camo, everyone seems to obssessed with SF/Rangers etc... Because two fresh Army infantrymen would know. Anyone who says they know when the Army is going to start issuing multicam is severly misinformed or just lying. Link to post Share on other sites
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