Wege Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 The crazy thing with that reddot up there is that it is so far above the bore. I think it is ~10cm to the top of the scope from the top of the receiverand it will be about another 3cm to the 'dot' itself, in the tube. I wonder how high above the bore a reddot is when mounted on a M4 carry handle. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 It's not really important as long as it's zeroed correctly. It looks like it's only a couple of centimetres from the centre of the built-in optical sight to the centre of the red-dot. Besides, at airsoft ranges, with airsoft ballistics, it's not going to make that much different anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 It does when you are close to branches/trees/walls/obstacles etc. It really makes you gRRRrrr when you have the 'perfect shot' ruined because you forgot about where your barrel actually is. >_< Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Sorry, muzzle clearance is something that's second nature to me, I didn't even think about it. When you use the real steel, it's something you don't forget. Not twice, anyway... Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 reddots are pretty awkward to use without a proper cheekweld. As i discovered when using a Mojji Zero piggybacked on my Long scope on rings that were a little too high Link to post Share on other sites
The_AUGfather Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Anyone selling a Phantom Kit in the USA? If so, PM me! Almost finished with a STANAG/M16-accepting AUG. Pictures to come by the end of the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 This isn't really the place for classified ads, and while interested in your project, this isn't really the place for that either. Looking forward to seeing the pics, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Anyone selling a Phantom Kit in the USA? If so, PM me! Almost finished with a STANAG/M16-accepting AUG. Pictures to come by the end of the weekend. Sweet!! will you post a tutorial on how to achive that? is it very hard? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2008/11...available-soon/ Another update of a real AUG for people to model (or try to) their AUG on. The design appears to be an AUG A2 with a A3 style top rail Link to post Share on other sites
The General Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 $2995 for the real deal???? Wow! Thats not cheap is it? Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 It's a rifle - what do you want? I'd say that's a fair price. Looks like a cut-down version of the A3, probably wouldn't be too hard to make something that looks as much like that as the Action RAS kit looks like the A3 by butchering the Action RAS kit. This isn't really the place for news, though, either... Link to post Share on other sites
The General Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Sir, you have a serious attitude problem. Just kidding. Sorry if I stepped over the line. Not my intention. For what its worth, I will be the proud owner of a TM AUG Civi this weekend! Link to post Share on other sites
trevdor Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi all, I posted this over in the general discussion thread but figured this would be a better place for it. I'm looking at getting an Echo 1 Phantom (Aug) and would like to get the most range and accuracy as I can out of it. So I was thinking about putting a 650mm PSG-1 inner barrel on it and then a silencer to hide it. What I've read in this thread makes it sound like that's not a big deal but in the other thread someone mentioned that I would have a problem with suck back. Should I be worried about that? I was also going to upgrade the bucking to a Systema bucking. Anything else you'd recommend? thank you all for the help, Trevdor Link to post Share on other sites
Russel_williams Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 well i had a skermish with a steyr aug today and i love that gun. i will be getting one. someone also let me take a few shots with a phantom front end aug. it was more front heavy. but i still cant deside wether to get the standars or ris model come march. will see if i can play with the phantom end some more. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Interestingly, the item you link to is not a Phantom AUG, as it doesn't have the built-in silencer kit fitted. It's just a standard AUG A1 SR. I wouldn't bother putting in a longer barrel, as you'll just be increasing the length of the weapon for no significant gains in muzzle velocity or accuracy, assuming you keep the rest of the rifle stock. As for any other recommendations... Well, I'd recommend getting a CA AUG instead. But that's just me. These clones might be first class pieces of equipment for less money, but I don't believe so, and won't until I've proved it myself. And no, I don't have an attitude problem. I'm quite happy with it. Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Of the people that have used a 650mm inner barrel with their AUG, did you encounter any problems? Bore-up kits apparently are not meant to be for longer barrels but rather higher FPS output and in the UK we couldn't use them anyway as they only start working at about 400 fps Also, I'm having a bit of trouble finding a "speed nipple" (at least that's what they used to be called) has anyone seen them for sale lately? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well, I'd recommend getting a CA AUG instead. But that's just me. These clones might be first class pieces of equipment for less money, but I don't believe so, and won't until I've proved it myself. well, to a degree that is true - if JG had their trigger switch/contacts sorted, then my A1 would be pretty damned nice. As it is, the trigger needs to be replaced (IMO) to get the AUG to perform reliably. Am so looking forward to my parts to arrive so I can use the blimmin thing. Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 ? trigger contacts on the JG not good? Is that a common fault with the JG? Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Not had any problems with mine. Had a host of others mind you. Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 not the trigger contacts, but the plastics associated with them - still part of the switch unit though. It could be mostly be issues in places where Semi Auto Only is a must though, as the FA/burst is not going to be present. The plastic guide deforms and allows the sliding contact to ride/move out of it's groove. shriven - what other probs with yours did you have? My minor ones are= rear sling swivels loose - the c-clips are not that great. the scope was slightly off-centre - a minor adjustment to the scope needed. the 'cocking' assembly is rough- i have to live with it and have just used some silicon lube with it to assist. The barrel assembly locking nut unit is poorly formed allowing some movement if forced. The front sling loop is poorly stamped - I don't use it anyway so it is taped up for silence. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Lack of wee foam pads to stop BBs getting into the body for example, so the pistol grip filled with BBs, which got into the trigger mech meaning some poor bugger got an awful lot more BBs than was intended. Gearbox shell was poorly cast, so my Guarder cylinder head and cylinder wouldn't fit ( at all/without a lot of fiddling respectively). Link to post Share on other sites
Russel_williams Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 well my budget for my airsofting equipment is £200 in march. may be able to ad another £30 on top if i am lucky along with the gun i intend to get a red dot sight, second mag and battery. some viper kneepads and a face mask. and i would like a cross draw tac-vest. and a gun sling douse any one use these mags http://www.wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/...id=34RMTMEBB48M are thay any good or should i just get another standard mag also can you recomed another cheap place for reliable aug mags. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I've never had anything but trouble with the AUG hi-caps. Then again, I know many people have used them without problems. A lot depends on your style of play. A lot of experienced players look down on hi-cap mags as being for noobs and so on. Personally, I don't use them, primarily for reasons of reliability, but also to enhance realism and gameplay experience. The problem occurs when you're trying to go up against a group of people all using 500-rounds-plus hi-caps and hosing constantly. But that's where tactics and stealth and experience come in.... For £200, you can get a good AEG. Maybe a few accessories with it, depending on where you buy. If you're going to buy cheap, just be careful and research carefully, because often when you buy cheap, that's exactly what you get... As for where to source parts, see the early pages of this thread for some suppliers who may or may not still have the items in question. Link to post Share on other sites
trevdor Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hey guys, found this picture somewhere online, I think it's from a video game. I'm liking the one with the silencer. Was thinking about getting a JG Aug A3 and adding a silencer to it. Would that be doable and would it be worth it to put a longer inner barrel in it? Think I'd be losing much range or accuracy versus the normal Aug? Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I, personally, wouldn't do any of the things you just suggested. I wouldn't buy a JG AUG, I'd buy a CA, because as far as I'm concerned, they're the best available at the moment. I wouldn't buy a so-called A3, because it's not really the A3 at all, it's an A1 with the Action RAS kit bolted on the front, making it front-heavy and ugly. (and yes, I know that I own one, but it's still front heavy and ugly) I wouldn't put a silencer on it, because there's no need. I certainly wouldn't put a fake (non functional) silencer on it and then run a longer inner barrel through it, because there's definitely no need. The AUG already has a 509mm inner barrel, which is longer than pretty much any AEG out there. There's really no need to use a longer one. Putting in a longer inner barrel shouldn't decrease accuracy, but it might decrease muzzle velocity, depending on the mechbox capabilities. Back when Project AUG was actually working, however, I got 350fps with the H-Bar barrel (650mm) and 330fps with the standard barrel (509mm). That was with a heavily upgraded TM mechbox, however, not a stock JG clone one. Link to post Share on other sites
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