Kiki-Jiki Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Well, as soon as I have $621.98 I'm buying one. Only issue is mags... I hope they come out with them ASAP. Because, well, this thing looks amazing. I'm seeing a CTR stock, MIAD grip, and Ranger plates... And I also don't really care about the plastic parts and all. I mean, if it's really nice fiber-whatever stuff then it can't be too bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 ... Wow, way to rape the market ehobbyasia lol, i hope they're left with a ton of guns that wont sell. Unfortunatly, wgc and redwolf are going to sell out and the idiots that have no patience are going to go to ehobbyasia for their fix...damn, those guys are smart. Link to post Share on other sites
bart_dude Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 o right my bad, because HKSDU sounded like you were in the SDU for a minute =S i thought you might the in THE SDU!!! when you were at range....cause i dont know any real ranges in hk..come to think of it i think there are real 1911 comps in hk...saw a poster like that in mk..but i cant read chinese properly D= Link to post Share on other sites
bart_dude Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 huh wtf is my post doing al the way down here? oh by the way blowback m4 fans...would you rather THIS? over the WA m4? k1 custom claims the m4 will retail at around 440-550, aluminium body, and steel internals, AND they say the m4 can use c02 as well as the conventional mags with gas ACCORDING to the comments if it came out, and i knew where their shop was in hk i would buy it...no doubt over the WA m4. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 oh by the way blowback m4 fans...would you rather THIS? over the WA m4? k1 custom claims the m4 will retail at around 440-550, aluminium body, and steel internals, AND they say the m4 can use c02 as well as the conventional mags with gas ACCORDING to the comments if it came out, and i knew where their shop was in hk i would buy it...no doubt over the WA m4. Must admit, that looks like exactly what I'd be after in a gas rifle. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 huh wtf is my post doing al the way down here? oh by the way blowback m4 fans...would you rather THIS? over the WA m4? k1 custom claims the m4 will retail at around 440-550, aluminium body, and steel internals, AND they say the m4 can use c02 as well as the conventional mags with gas ACCORDING to the comments if it came out, and i knew where their shop was in hk i would buy it...no doubt over the WA m4. Um...where are you getting that info from? That gun in the link is the incredibly overpriced LA studios m4 that retails for something like 2300 bucks... They're that expensive because they use sub par PTW externals as a base. Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 No, its a k1custom. LA studios would be this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66rFR05CBPE...feature=related oh by the way blowback m4 fans...would you rather THIS? over the WA m4? k1 custom claims the m4 will retail at around 440-550, aluminium body, and steel internals, AND they say the m4 can use c02 as well as the conventional mags with gas ACCORDING to the comments if it came out, and i knew where their shop was in hk i would buy it...no doubt over the WA m4. Naw. WA M4 for me. Magna FTW. Bolt don't lock back like the WA do... so no lieky. And I like the classic short M4 RIS design. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 RS, maybe im getting my facts crossed but that k1 custom gun is made out of a PTW shell. There is NO way in hell its going to be 400-500 USD.... Can someone elaborate on this, preferably the original poster of that information. Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 RS, maybe im getting my facts crossed but that k1 custom gun is made out of a PTW shell. There is NO way in hell its going to be 400-500 USD.... Can someone elaborate on this, preferably the original poster of that information. Ah, didn't see the 440-550 price he listed... Its not true, you're right. Sorry about that. Price for K1custom: $4000 (according to the OP of the vid; its made from RS parts as well) YEa....WA M4 for me once again. Link to post Share on other sites
bart_dude Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 we all seem to be confused iam too, because that m4 was just a prototype=) so the real price is not for certain, if it really costs 4,000, it HAS to be in HK dollars if we really want to find out the price, we gotta get on the ground and beg for k1 custom to mass produce the m4's so the price would be lower and everyone can afford one! lol it seems a lot still prefer the WA m4, but the k1custom's m4 looks like it can take a lot of aftermarket m4 accesories like crane stocks or a whole new barrel, while the wa m4....not so sure DONT FORGET THE K1 CUSTOM m4 CAN USE C02!!! and its metal Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 RS, maybe im getting my facts crossed but that k1 custom gun is made out of a PTW shell. There is NO way in hell its going to be 400-500 USD.... Can someone elaborate on this, preferably the original poster of that information. well It will be available in mass production with standard M4A1 outfit in 2-3 months. Retail price will be US$400-550. Real scale measurements. Aluminum frame and upper. Steel internals. Both 12g CO2 magazine and conventional gas pre-charged magazine will be avail. is in the comments from orignator of the vid.. Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 ^lol. Totally contradicts what he said earlier.. Think the guy's lost. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Ok, so is the K1 Custom availible now or is it not? I've checked on Wolf and they have nothing on there?!? Confucious...... Link to post Share on other sites
snorkelman Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 ^lol. Totally contradicts what he said earlier.. actually no it doesnt the handtweaked gun being waived around to demo their blowback system has umpteendozen RS bits shoved on it The gun he seems to be saying will be on sale in three months is a bone stock mass production M4A1 version (ie sans all the RS parts). Course wether it is on sale in 3 months time I wont be holding my breath over but it is kinda easy to see that a bog stock airsoft produced one isnt going to tip the scales at the same price as a one off with expensive to import to Japan RS parts bolted all over it. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 What happened to the regular fore ended M4? I'm not too keen on spending money on the RIS model since I don't like rails. And no, don't suggest me to just buy real steel grips because that would mean more spending. I'm actually considering selling a large chunk of my armory for one of these, the only thing from the M16 line thats caught my attention... unless they whip out a VN version or a CAR15. Link to post Share on other sites
scooberoo Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I suggest you buy real steel grips. Sell your armory. Link to post Share on other sites
wolfstein5 Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Has anyone spotted a review of this beast yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 ^lol. Totally contradicts what he said earlier.. Think the guy's lost. To me that just reads as him bragging about the value of all the real-steel tat he's got bolted to the rifle. If he outright says that the gun will retail for $500-odd, you've gotta take him at his word. I'll be interested to see how this looks with regards to features such as a working cocking handle and bolt-catch. I assume that, i it uses normal mags, it doesn't stop firing on empty so I can't really see how it'll all work. I wouldn't be buying a gun like this for practicality. I'd be buying it for authenticity so correct functionality would be important to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Thats why i was confused about the price, i hadnt read the comments lately but i DID see that original price quote of four grand which fits in with my original speculation of a 2300 dollar price tag plus the SIR, stock and other components on the gun. Well, any way you cut the cheese its still pretty cool that someone else is going to be releasing a gas blowback gun thats not externally fed in the near future. One thing i will say is that the WA gun looks like its got less cool down than that k1 customs gun. Link to post Share on other sites
transist Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Back in stock. Hurry! lol http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=24491 Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 I think everyone is now waiting for first 'happy' owner to tell us all what's so horribly wrong with it... And when someone gets the mags for sale. The rifles are going to fluctuate in availability until the initial rush is over... BY the fuzz, I'd say in two years? Kinda wish one of the Hong Kong people'd already tell us how well it'll take other furnitures... Some of us want to turn this into longer rifle, even if we'd need to use the original inner barrel to keep the pwoer levels between ane and mild flogging from receiving players... Link to post Share on other sites
Harvahammas Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hahaha, It has poor out fit and poor accracy, but I like this gun. The problem is... It's expensive for this quality. Hahaha,good. I think WA M4 is one of most fun airsoft M4 which I can buy now. It is not good machine for game,but it's fun to shoot. It's not gorgeous actually. Those pics show better than real. All exterior looks soo cheap.You will be disappointed when you will get the gun in your hands. However. Shooting GBB is so fun, even it has worse ability as BB spread machine. I tested accracy today I've got not very good result. The distance was 20m. I use Aimpoint M2 with KAC canti mount.I shot one round per 3 second with rest position. BB is SIIS 0.25g The grouping of 20 shots was more than 300mm. I found muzzle velocity went down so quickly even 30 rounds. May be the weather is not warm enogh. Few quotes from one owner from Systema PTW forum. For over 500$ price tag seems to be bad deal Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Few quotes from one owner from Systema PTW forum. For over 500$ price tag seems to be bad deal So, a guy who apparently owns a Systema PTW claims a gun with more realistic operation and that costs 1/3rd of the price is actually worse than the PTW? Who'da thunk it? Personally, I doubt he has even seen a WA M4 and I wouldn't be surprised to find he doesn't own a PTW either. Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Ouch....but I'm gonna wait and see what members from this forum have to say about it! Wheres Fareast when you need him........ Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Personally, I doubt he has even seen a WA M4 and I wouldn't be surprised to find he doesn't own a PTW either. Or owns a PTW and is very annoyed that theres a more realistic (and from the sounds of it nicer externally) gun for a lot less than the PTW? No no, that couldn't be it Link to post Share on other sites
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