billytehbob Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 why is these companies making 416s, bring on the 417! My thoughts exactly Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Feature Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 If they clean up the trades, I just might buy this. I was willing to deal with the funky trades of an import 416 or an SRC, but I just might end up buying a Classic Army. Link to post Share on other sites
TXP Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Does that mean the Mp5's will have proper trades as well? not that i have seen mp5 trades before to know what they look like. As far as inofficial informations are availabe, nothing will change on the CA MP5, it will still have B&T trades. Real MP5 trades are present on top of the receiver http://hkpro.com/mp5kserial.jpg Didn't H&K stop their own production of the MP5/HK33/HK53 about a year ago? No, MP5 is still in production. Production of all other roller locked rifles (except MSG 90 and PSG1) have been stoped quite a while ago. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Getting a slice off of Umarex' H&K trades was a smart move by CA, IMHO. copy VFC, release it under Umarex, and you have max output with minimum effort. We, It goes to show they don't have to copy TM all the time. Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 im thinking classic army will make a 416 without trades and then one with trades. hence a price diffrence lol Link to post Share on other sites
alexishere2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Is this already released in the US I want that G36C if the trades arent screwed up than I would go for the VFC SCAR-H i amwaiting for Link to post Share on other sites
billytehbob Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 No, it hasn't been released in the US. It's on pre-order in Germany though. I'm really interested in the 416 right now, H&K trades are a huge plus, I just want to know what the Stateside price is Link to post Share on other sites
0nslaught Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 No, it hasn't been released in the US. It's on pre-order in Germany though. I'm really interested in the 416 right now, H&K trades are a huge plus, I just want to know what the Stateside price is just buy the VFC then Link to post Share on other sites
Garibaldi Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 If VFC pulls out of the 416 race, then that only leaves SRC and JG...I won't consider Hurricane because its only a kit! You forgot about the AGM clone released a couple of weeks ago It's supposed to be full metal, comes with 2 barrels (10' and 14.5'), battery crane stock, battery, charger & sling. Quite hot (420fps), but with a guarder FTK it will be skirmishable for less than £180. http://www.rsov.com/product_info.php?products_id=1758 £96 shipped to the UK, so cheap I ordered one today just to check, couldn't resist... Link to post Share on other sites
TXP Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 im thinking classic army will make a 416 without trades and then one with trades. hence a price diffrence lol Wouldn't make much sense, as there's a design patent on the look of the 416. So CA would need the Umarex licence in any case and there wouldn't be a price difference. Link to post Share on other sites
Brother Decimus Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 yes, we did forget about that hideous AGM clone that looks almost nothing like a 416. With the disgusting trades and stock its not a 416 in the least. I'm not picky when it comes to guns being realistic, but thats just plain off. It's almost like they said, screw it, whats the point half way through making the design. Link to post Share on other sites
TooBigToFit Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 That AGM clone was a lot closer to a 416 than the JG one was. The only thing wrong with the AGM, from what I can see, is the trademarks. Link to post Share on other sites
DEVGRU14 Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 umarex is giving HK a bad name Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Hyde Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Am I the only one that read the translation? From reading it I understand that the CA 416 will have blowback? It says that the bolt will move when shooting, so I am going to say that is blowback. Even so, I would get the VFC over the CA, just because the VFC is NIIIIICEE. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Am I the only one that read the translation? From reading it I understand that the CA 416 will have blowback? It says that the bolt will move when shooting, so I am going to say that is blowback. Even so, I would get the VFC over the CA, just because the VFC is NIIIIICEE. Keep in mind that this is a CA, so the more parts that can move, the more parts that can brake. and it's not really blowback like a GBB, they just copied the TM system of the AK-47MN. their will be, or already is, an SA58 with the same system. If you want real blowback on an M4, buy WA. Link to post Share on other sites
alexishere2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 look at their wesite they have pictures up of the G36C the trades are red http://www.umarex.com/index.php?id=product...Hash=5f8ba965a5 not sure if its the final version Link to post Share on other sites
alexishere2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 omg i want a mp7 it looks pretty cool/normal http://www.umarex.com/index.php?id=product...Hash=8154ced32a Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 look at their wesite they have pictures up of the G36C the trades are red http://www.umarex.com/index.php?id=product...Hash=5f8ba965a5 not sure if its the final version that looks like a JG with, bad trades on it. the mp7 doesn't look too bad, but really if you have the license, the least you could do as a company is put on the correct one, geez. actually Umarex should be ashamed of itself. A 416 made by CA, so the anti copy company working together with a company that copies. Link to post Share on other sites
TXP Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 The MP7 is a Tokyo Soldier clone. It's always the same with Umarex, cheap and crappy products with oversized an unrealistic trades at an unreasonable expensive price. Link to post Share on other sites
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