Guest Grunt636 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 The AGM HK416 runs around 400fps and has a length around 80cm (stock out) and a inner barrel length of 36.8cm. Grant Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 grunt, if you have it, could you please give us some impresions? but im more interested in the bad parts of it, what would you change from it or what didnt you like since I eared that it has some wobble and imperfections in the handward Link to post Share on other sites
ruger13 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I got mine yesterday, AGM HK416 (with 417 type stock) i have not had the chance to test it in game but i can tell you what i dont like - The battery! ( guess what the stock battery will not hold a day... big surprice ) - Very power hungry weapon ( i recomend buying a good 9,6V battery ) - Markings ( i dont care about markings but some might se these unrealistic markings as a bad thing ) - Took out my crono, it actually does fire 420FPS ( witch is bad, as most will need to downgrade them ) - Silver bolt ( why, why, must airsoft makers put in silver colored bolt plates??? they are supposed to be black ) cant tell you the good bits untill i have battel tested it, but i do have a good feeling going here, dont think i will be dissapointed Link to post Share on other sites
Zogmeister Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Sorry Quinch, you mean theres a Boyi version of the HK416? I have just seen the JG and AGM versions. If so, would you please put a link? thanks Gestaa: Since you have skirmished it, maybe U have compared it to any of the hundreds of M4 on the fields... and theres something that troubles me... the body of the HK416 y a bit "taller" than the regular M4 body, isnt it? Thanks Holla my long ambre... AGM is a JG with a metal body fitted so quality issues highlighted are rubbish. Yes, body is slightly different in dimension, but is is this a problem? I love both 416 and my 416 with 417 stock. Blinding performance and quality is accpetable. There is a slight give where the ris meets the reciever; however if you place a eotech or scope to reinforce that point there is no movement at all. Failing taht locite works.. Link to post Share on other sites
Zogmeister Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Thanks Unit318, more info and more headaches The truth is im unsure about getting this AGM or a Dboys CASV, both full metal, but info about this AGM is... well, insuffcient, and now even more since its said theres two versions and no gearbox inner photos... U HAAAAAAAARD decisition AGM it is full metal, unlike the Dboys.. AGM is better build quality than Dboy m4 range. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Thanks Zogmeister so AGM is like a Jing Gong with metal body? wow! as I read JG model had a quite strong gearbox , so... good mews for me I asked about Dboys and its body because if it was higher quality than the AGM and the body was the same, I could fit a HK416 full metal handward in the future, I just wanted a good quality product but If you tell me the AGM is so good, It will be my next purchase in the next days Just a question, ive been told in other forums that the handward is fullmetal, and not only the rails, is this right? because if it is... well, it could be too good to believe a FULLmetal HK416 with JG internals... Thanks to everybody for the info, this looks a good replica with too little information about it Link to post Share on other sites
Zogmeister Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Thanks Zogmeister so AGM is like a Jing Gong with metal body? wow! as I read JG model had a quite strong gearbox , so... good mews for me I asked about Dboys and its body because if it was higher quality than the AGM and the body was the same, I could fit a HK416 full metal handward in the future, I just wanted a good quality product but If you tell me the AGM is so good, It will be my next purchase in the next days Just a question, ive been told in other forums that the handward is fullmetal, and not only the rails, is this right? because if it is... well, it could be too good to believe a FULLmetal HK416 with JG internals... Thanks to everybody for the info, this looks a good replica with too little information about it FULL METAL Si senor... Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Si senor... Thanks Zog, I feel like home now Looks like I have no choice but to place an order next week Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Well, its done, the order should arrive early next week, so expect some bad photos One more question for those who have opened the gear... does the AGM features metal bushings? if not, are they 6mm or 7mm? and what about inner barrel? is it a common M4 short barrel? I tought adding a madbull 6.03 inner barrel Keep the topic alive dudes Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 As far as I know, the "long" HK416 is the same as the regular M4A1, which leads me to believe the "short" HK416 is the same as an M4 CQB. I could be wrong though Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hummmm, thats definetly not good at all since I dont like the "long" HK416, I prefer to keep the flashhider close to the handward... Does someone know a shop where I can Buy Madbull inner Barrels? a shop which ships to Europe, of course Link to post Share on other sites
Cegoz Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 How's this post holding up? Nobody has said anything about this gun for weeks,.. Was it so good that it made everyone speechless or are everyone so ashamed that they rather not speak about the gun? ^^ Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 My order arrived two days ago and still have no photos or opened it yet, so I cant give proper information. Anyway, first impresions are quite good, externally is great, handward and body are full metal, sturdy, no wobble and VERY HEAVY, but has a few drwbacks like iron sights, which are not very reliable, the boltchatch tinkles a bit but U can fixit with a bit of adesive tape, and the butsock has a serios wobbling which I spect to fix with a new one in the future. As a bese for tuning and learning, which is my case, this gun is really good Link to post Share on other sites
Cegoz Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Ok:) Post some pictures and some info when you get to open it:) I ordered one some days ago.. So I'd really like some information on the internals, as of the externals everyone says it's pretty good.l Link to post Share on other sites
albertus fox Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 lm picking one these bad boys up. My friend is selling a hk416 hurricane receiver dirt cheap to me, would that stop the front wobble? lm attaching a PRS stock to it and a 16.5" outer barrel. lm hoping to make a kind of sniper version. l dont know wether to ditch the peq box and use a ready mag battery case. Maybe just buy a better peq battery cas? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 PEQ isnt that bad, just stick a bit of foam and you are done Handward doesnt wobble, just the stock, but if you can get a cooler handward, dont hesitate and get it Anyway, im not using the peq, im modding a Dboys grenade launcher to fit big batteries instead of one mini battery and crappy springer, it wont be rock solid but it will be quite cool Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 I got the 417 choate stock variant. It's still in transit (damn you HK Post ) but I'm hoping on getting it soon. I am also planning on replacing the stock with one of the new King Arms battery stocks. It's nice to hear the front end doesn't wobble, I hear it's only held in place by one screw. Link to post Share on other sites
Cegoz Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I got mine today... The externals is awesome Only thing I have to say about it so far is that the stock wobbles a bit, but I'm going to solve that with some black electro tape.. How do I get the stock-part off the stock-end-piece, the "metal tube" that the stock is connected or mounted on? And, how long is the charging time on those batteries? 8,4v - 1500mah ? And last, is there anything else I should do with the gun before trying it out? Booooyaaah..! Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Its secured by one bad screw and two very bad things I dont know how to name due to my bad airsoftenglish but looking for replacements is no a bad idea, or you could simply use an eotech or scope to fix both handward and upper reciever, it wont budge at all my battery came empty and i charged for about 8 hours, dont know if it was enough tough Link to post Share on other sites
Cegoz Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Isamu, your talking about the stock or the reciever? I your talking about the stock: Is it so bad? I'm not going to play with it, just fun/practice shooting, so I think, or I hope the stock is going to hold:) I have a replica aimpoint mounted on the top rail, but I could feel or hear any wobbling from it anyway.. Did you use the charger that followed the gun or did you use a different charger? I kind'a don't want to leave the charger and the batteries all by them self.. I read that both the batteries and the charger should be replaced to well known brand batteries and charger.. ?? Link to post Share on other sites
Unit 318 Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 300 MaH = 1 hour of charging. So you should leave it in 5 hours. Link to post Share on other sites
Cegoz Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 ah.. ok:) And for how long should I be able to have fun with the gun? And do I need to discharge the batteri before I put it away? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Sorry, its the stock which wobbles, a bit annoying if moving, but its just me, im a bit... picky with it Its my first AEG and im still tuning it before playing, so im not very concerned with getting a charger, but if you are worried about it or are going to play with it, get an intelligent charger/discharger Link to post Share on other sites
Cegoz Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 It's my first gun too.. But I'm not going to play MilSim or any skirmish.. Just target shooting.. Anything I need to know before shooting with it? And you said your tuning it, what needs tuning? Link to post Share on other sites
Cegoz Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 The gun has now been tested.. I'm not that impressed with it at this moment.. The gun was fired from a distance of 25m (82feet). Bullets went everywhere.. Curve: After leaving the muzzle the bullet went straight forward for about 12-15m, then went upwards, before it around 3-5m from the target, came down again and hit the target below the aimpoint mark.. :S I also experienced severe glogging of bb's.. Don't know what that's coming from:( The manual said that both the glogging and the morron'ish bullet curve may come from to much Hop-up, but when I checked it, the Hop-Up was set all the way to normal?? second, with wind-up mags, how often are you suppose to wind the mag. up? After filling it completly up with around 300bb's, then firing 150 of them, or more like 100-120 due to clogging the gun missfired, then I had to unclogg the mag.well a couple of times before the gun was able to fire again. (The trigger got stucked, like in the saftyposition due to the glogging..) I also tried the KA - 68R HK mag, that didn't go at all.. :I The gun wasn't able to fire a single bullet.. I pullet out the mag. and about 5 bb's came down, inserted the mag. and tried again.. same thing happend?? I also looked like the spring from the KA mag. wasn't strong enough to push the bullets up to the hop-up.. ? I've turned the hop-up about 1/4 to "hop" position, and given the hop-up some silicone from inside the mag-well.. I hope someone with some tech.-xp could give me some inputs on what to do? Link to post Share on other sites
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