poison123 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 .25 or .2 bbs? Also which ones have worse cool down? GG or 134a? .2s Honestly cool down was about the same for both of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 So, those of you that have your WAM4s to hand, what are the chances that an AEG upper could be modded to fit the WA internals given a mill and a lathe and a lot of time? Most importantly, do the holes for the receiver pins line up and are they the same width? Cheers. Mine is on the way but I am having some wicked ideas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I'm not sure what you're planning but it might pay off to take a look at the Daytonagun thread in the news section....he hasn't taken the WA system, but the Escort system, but he needed spacers because AEG bodies are wider due the Gearbox being used. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Yeah, I've seen what he has done, it's pretty impressive and I have external air guns but I really just want to tinker. I'll be getting one in a few days (or months depending on parcelfarce) and I'll assess the viability of it all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Jackass Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 WA CAR15 stunt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Well, I was sort of thinking along those lines but I would need to either extensively mod the TM stock to fit or try to source a Kokusai or RS one and they are both pretty rare and/or expensive. We'll see, I'll practice on an old JG M733 upper I have lying around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BaBaBooey Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 (edited) So, those of you that have your WAM4s to hand, what are the chances that an AEG upper could be modded to fit the WA internals given a mill and a lathe and a lot of time? Most importantly, do the holes for the receiver pins line up and are they the same width? Cheers. Mine is on the way but I am having some wicked ideas. Maybe not impossible, but I would think it would be very difficult. I noticed the inside of the upper has very unique shape not found on real AR-15's or AEG's. It holds an odd looking barrel socket...it looks like it's designed so the BB's can load smoothly into the hop chamber. You'll know what I mean when you actually see it. I'm guessing you would need to add material to an AEG upper to hold the socket in place. On the lower, WA designed a VERY unique firing block. Real or AEG receivers do not seem to have the right design to accommodate it, since a real or AEG AR-15 doesn't use a firing block. The firing block also hold in place the even odder looking bolt stop (unlike real AR-15's, the bolt stop is not pinned to the receiver, but to the firing block). But, I guess nothing is impossible in this hobby. Edited July 13, 2008 by BaBaBooey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooTall Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Ok, status update; Nice package from Ebaybanned this morning! Lets see...Magpul MIAD? Didn't fit. Magpul Trigger Guard? Nope. Larue RIS Freefloat replica? No dice. Tango Down grip? Needed LOTS of force before it went on. Magpul PTS CTR Stock? Fits! M4 Sling Swivel? Nope. MIAD fits, but too loose. The stock grip fits very tightly, but the MIAD totally not. I could fix this, with using some other material, but it would leave a horrid gap between grip and receiver. Trigger Guard might fit, but I would need to file the tabs on the lower reciever. AND use a screw to fit the trigger guard on one end. Screw + plastic tab that propably breaks => nono RIS would fit, but there's a bulge on the outer barrel, so the slip ring just wont screw on the upper reciever completely. Everything else seems to work,it's just the bulge on the outer barrel that screws it up. Have a G&P outer barrel on the way, but I don't think it'll fit that one either. Had to drill a hole for the fake gas tube. Trades ok, spelling not so ok. See pics. Piccies; Ok trades... Not so ok spelling... Edited July 14, 2008 by TooTall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hmmm is that a replica MIAD or a RS? My RS one fit perfectly onto the WA M4 and did not wobble at all. *cough* You could always buy a RS Larue and not support china Sorry M. Larue has commented that people have tried sending in those crappy 7.0 fakes for replacement..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Poison, did you try the RS enhanced trigger guard as well? Did that fit okay? and TooTall, Hows the quality of the Larue Replica? Does the quality even look like it should be mounted on a $500+ gun? Cost savings is definitely there and even though it may take a bit of work to install, I just dont know if I want to go RS or Replica when I buy a RIS... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooTall Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Poison, did you try the RS enhanced trigger guard as well? Did that fit okay? and TooTall, Hows the quality of the Larue Replica? Does the quality even look like it should be mounted on a $500+ gun? Cost savings is definitely there and even though it may take a bit of work to install, I just dont know if I want to go RS or Replica when I buy a RIS... My MIAD came like this, with the trigger guard added. Can you confirm if that's a real one or not? And for fitting it, just the same position, stock screw in the middle hole? With the normal backplate or the one with the "backwing"? Well I would like to get a real one, but Larue is not shipping to EU. And yes, I know people have said "we can ship it out for you" but when I spend my money I'd rather see it go to the shop instead of a go-between, heared enough bad stories... I don't like the whole China-copy thing either, but that's what we gotta work with here in Belgium. The RIS, meh. Trades look ok, the 2 sling attachment holes are VERY rough, think my RIS is a used one actually......email to ebaybanned on the way about that. RS things fit on it. Not a bad RIS, but too bad the WA is build so it doesn't go on. In this case, if you would shell out say 500USD for a real Larue RIS, you'd have a much better product, no question. But the question is, from pictures that I've seen of the real kit, I think it has the same fitment issues the replica has. So instead of wasting 500USD (and that's without shipping, customs (25% added here) and a loooong waiting time) I wasted 35€ or something. Funny thing, I'm a NCO in the Belgian military. And I remember seeing an airsoft reddot on a FNC once....go figure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Heehehe sorry I only give people ###### on Larue stuff As for your MIAD...that does not look like RS at all. I'll snap some pictures of mine when I get home tonight, but there aren't any brass fittings on it, and its bottom cap is a snap on, no screws at all. And that packaging is completely different, should have come in a little baggy with inserts not a box. Junior- Yes the RS enhanced trigger guard fit like a glove. *edit* I think I see your problem with the MIAD, thats a PTS that I guess is made for a standard airsoft gun. I don't think those work very well at all considering the grip on the WA M4 is made(thankfully) to RS spec. Here is what the RS looks like: http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/deta...;product_id=214 Notice no metal other than the piece that screws the grip into the lower. Edited July 14, 2008 by poison123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooTall Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 More pics... Aaaaaaaah.....So I guess I bought an airsoft grip from a real steel maker? Gawd... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Do you have a link to the website(if thats where you bought it) where you got it from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooTall Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Do you have a link to the website(if thats where you bought it) where you got it from? http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.php?products_id=1490 Sais Airsoft Version of MIsson ADaptable AR15/M16 Grip. Grmbl Who would have thought, the airsoft version doesn't fit the airsoft replica Edited July 14, 2008 by TooTall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Yeah that's from Magpul's PTS (airsoft) line. The grip is a different design from the RS version in order to accommodate an AEG motor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 http://ebaybanned.com/product_info.php?products_id=1490 Sais Airsoft Version of MIsson ADaptable AR15/M16 Grip. Grmbl Who would have thought, the airsoft version doesn't fit the airsoft replica I'm sure it would work perfectly well on the AEG Heheheh. As I've noticed so far on the WA M4, unless its a internal part needed for the action of the weapon RS parts seem to be the way to go. Ya ya I know....Don't ask me how much I've invested in my WA M4...Its depressing in the fact its just about on par with how much my RS Larue AR-15 I'm building has cost me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooTall Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I think the phrase I'm looking for rhymes with CLUCKING BELL! Ah well, nothing to do about it I'll just sell it then. How about this one? http://www.tacticalsense.com/product.php~i...+Grip+Kit~.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I think the phrase I'm looking for rhymes with CLUCKING BELL! Ah well, nothing to do about it I'll just sell it then. How about this one? http://www.tacticalsense.com/product.php~i...+Grip+Kit~.html Yup that looks good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junior Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Anyone have any luck yet modifying a Ranger floor plate to work on the WA Mags? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooTall Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Yup that looks good. Allright, I've got a real one coming in from someone I know. Thanks for the help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissyg Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Just got mine Really nice, thanks for swaying me to get one. However, how the *fruitcage* do you get the damn thing open? The way the manual says doesn't work for me... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Just got mine Really nice, thanks for swaying me to get one. However, how the *fruitcage* do you get the damn thing open? The way the manual says doesn't work for me... Huh? When you say open...do you mean seperate the upper from the lower? If so there's a takedown pin that needs to be pushed right below the forward assist button, and at the very front of the upper/lower. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooTall Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Dammit, a stovepipe! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TooTall Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Hey Poison, do you have any idea whether one of these will go on? http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?i...01WM_srch_sling Or would that need to be Mil-Spec aswell? Did you have a go at the buffer tube yet? Edited July 14, 2008 by TooTall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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