uscmCorps Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 *snip* That's an interesting and informative write up! If you ever get the chance to, please do a tutorial. That'd help out fellow airsofters great deal. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 @ Renegade: Why do you dislike the UBR? I was reading various stuffs about it on the Real Steel forums like AR-15, etc and they were all raving about how awesome it was, yet you call it a mere novelty and say ya like the CTR more? Â Could you possibly elaborate? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
QDRenegade Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 @ Renegade: Why do you dislike the UBR? I was reading various stuffs about it on the Real Steel forums like AR-15, etc and they were all raving about how awesome it was, yet you call it a mere novelty and say ya like the CTR more? Â Could you possibly elaborate? Thanks! Â Absolutely. Don't get me wrong, the UBR is cool. Cool enough that I didn't want to sell it and the mounting gear for offers cerca $350 (paid $250 for the UBR). At AR15.com, Magpul and LaRue gear is awesome regardless of its effectiveness. Granted, both companies have done a phenominal job with their parts but people are far less than objective. That said, the people who claim to love the UBR more than likely have never actually run around with it shouldered... Shooting at the range and shooting in the field (at least as close as milsim airsoft will let it get) are totally experiences. Just like there are chairsofters here, arfcom has couch commandos who would rather invest in a $1500 ACOG than a little training in using their iron sights. Â The UBR collapses to about the length of the CTR and extends, again, to about the same length. Its not particularily ergonomic and the storage doors aren't useful either... Figure anything you want to put in there either will a) not fit; or rattle until you get ###### off enough to throw the contents on the ground. In addition, the increased size/bulk adds to the weight but not in a manner that I can positively debate. In the case of the PRS, the weight helps balance the rifle/aeg in a fashion that allows more precision shooting (+1 for a precision stock) and is, more importantly, a concequence of its awesome ergonomics. The UBR, however, does not provide me or any of my buddies with a similar feeling. The extra bulk can't reasoned, either. This is where I draw the conclusion that the UBR is kinda a median between the CTR and PRS. The PRS is pricy and very bulky (dubbed the Magpul Brick) but very comfortable and adjustable. The CTR is like a new and improved collapsable stock with a better cheek weld and lighter. However, it doesn't have any additional adjustability (understandable as far as making it lightweight, utilitarian, and cost effective). The UBR kinda takes on all the negative aspects of the CTR and PRS given that its bulky, rather heavy, not too comfortable, and very pricy. In the pro column is the notion that its collapsable, provides a good cheek weld, and has some storage (weak, but still a pro). Â So yeah, it looks awesome. In fact, it looks so awesome that the form overshadows the poor function. Again, I'm not above having it installed because of how novel it is but I doubt I'll ever bring it to a game above my PRS or CTR. Â I hope that clears up a few things... Lemme know if there is something I can clarify. Â Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I definitely prefer the look of the UBR without the compartment doors in place. From what you've described, it sounds like the UBR isn't much better than the Magpul M93 Stock. Link to post Share on other sites
QDRenegade Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I definitely prefer the look of the UBR without the compartment doors in place. From what you've described, it sounds like the UBR isn't much better than the Magpul M93 Stock. Â Exactly. The M93 was like the beta version of the UBR... Magpul is now trading M93Bs for the new UBRs. Damn shame too. Oh well, they have something new on the horizon called the ACS I think. Link to post Share on other sites
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jumper Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Exactly. The M93 was like the beta version of the UBR... Magpul is now trading M93Bs for the new UBRs. Damn shame too. Oh well, they have something new on the horizon called the ACS I think. Â The simple fact is the UBR was designed for real steel cheek weld and really only that. Since this isn't even remotely necessary in airsoft the functionality of a fixed and non-moving cheek weld, ensuring unchanged eye relief, and sustained accuracy is completely lost to us air-softers, unless you go w/ it for real steel too and you use airsoft as a cheap way to better your CQB combat skills. Â Form is unrivaled. I think I stared at the first picture of a UBR for a good minute in awe of it. Â On topic: jdizzle very nice cqb, simple and smoothe Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Alot of people are putting UBR's on longer rifle, ie rifles with 16 and 18 inch barrels. They say that the extra weight of the UBR helps balance the rifle. Â I dont think i would ever put a UBR on anything 14.5 inches and below, it just seems like too much stock for such a small package. Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 A few pics of my updated L119-A1 which has had a new steel barrel with old style expansion chamber instead ofthe new shape one it had before and a new body. Just need to scratch her up again now   Link to post Share on other sites
QDRenegade Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 The simple fact is the UBR was designed for real steel cheek weld and really only that. Since this isn't even remotely necessary in airsoft the functionality of a fixed and non-moving cheek weld, ensuring unchanged eye relief, and sustained accuracy is completely lost to us air-softers, unless you go w/ it for real steel too and you use airsoft as a cheap way to better your CQB combat skills. Â Haha I don't buy that. The cheek weld on the UBR is almost identical to that of the CTR. Whether using the UBR on an AEG or AR15 is almost irrelevant - recoil on the ar15 is not that much and, more importantly, your face should never move relative to the stock/upper your body. In addition, the CTR has more pieces available to get the same improved cheek weld that was used on the UBR. I shoot my AEG in the same manner that I shoot my AR15 and I believe the cheek weld to be just as important (if not moreso given the wider range of targets). Â I hate to call it eye candy, but I think it sits with the CAA stocks that just look cool but don't really add anything. Â my $.02 Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Damn.... Well at least that saves me money Also, what outer barrel are you using on that beautiful gun of yours? Thanks for the help BTW... I am on the fence about a Magpul AR-15 DMR project, and you've sold me on the PRS Now to make another gun or not Link to post Share on other sites
QDRenegade Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Damn.... Well at least that saves me money Also, what outer barrel are you using on that beautiful gun of yours? Thanks for the help BTW... I am on the fence about a Magpul AR-15 DMR project, and you've sold me on the PRS Now to make another gun or not  Haha not a problem... I like trying to help where I can. On my GR16, its just the stock 14.25" Magnesium barrel that I polished with sand paper and a dremel. The GR16 SBR has a 10.25" ECHO1 steel barrel.  When removing my triangle gas block, I tore the *suitcase* out of my barrel. Little did I know that there is a little hex screw that put pressure on the barrel so I just decided to sand off the finish. Figure it'd look like a match barrel and I got lucky that it turned out that way. Still need to hit it with something to smooth it out some more. Aaannnddd I need to get a low profile GB     Some the 'hard to sand' areas have some keft over finish which makes the barrel look more used. As for the PRS, well good choice. Its a fine stock and I think you'll really enjoy it.   Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Nice blasters QDR, 1st Commando, and jdizzle. Â How solid are the UBR's when extended? I want to get one for a 6.8 AR for hunting and was wondering if it was solid enough to not effect accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites
QDRenegade Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Nice blasters QDR, 1st Commando, and jdizzle. How solid are the UBR's when extended? I want to get one for a 6.8 AR for hunting and was wondering if it was solid enough to not effect accuracy.  It's built like a tank so its damn sturdy at any length. You should probably ask someone at ar15.com which buffer spring to use though; I know the .308 needs something special and I don't know where the 6.8 lies between the .223 and .308.  Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
airsoft_maniac Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 MFR-Blaster http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/J.../Picture003.jpg http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/J.../Picture001.jpg http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/J.../Picture002.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 It's built like a tank so its damn sturdy at any length. You should probably ask someone at ar15.com which buffer spring to use though; I know the .308 needs something special and I don't know where the 6.8 lies between the .223 and .308. Cheers.   Thanks dude. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I was considering getting a FDE UBR for my FDE rifle except (1) it might be too much stock for my gun, and (2) I can't find the UBR in-stock ANYWHERE. Â MFR-Blaster How do you find that ambi-catch? All the ambi-catches of that style I've come across didn't do a particularly good job of keeping my mags in. The spring on the left side didn't seem strong enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Faint Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) Corps, On my 15 I used a G&P one and took the spring that came with it to home depot for a replacement one that worked better, it holds in marui standards & hicaps as well as MAG and star magazines good now. Â DTP Body. Â Â Edited November 4, 2008 by Faint Link to post Share on other sites
Victory Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) I have a First Factory AMBI magazine catch. Seems to hold the mags in pretty well. Might want to check that out, Corps. (I think it's on sale now at WGC.)  -Vic  Edit: Yep, there it is. http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?i...MBIM_srch_first factory Edited November 4, 2008 by Victory Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 @ 1st commando, i really like how simple that is and how good it looks. Link to post Share on other sites
CSC Maverick Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Â wOw that gun is gorgeous...VERY nice! (man I havent posted in FOREVER. Thats what college does to you .) Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I have no idea where to ask this, in gear or another part, so ill ask here. lol  Whats the best and most realistic PEQ box replica that can hold a battery? Price not an issue.  Looking for one for my M4, as I dont want a crane-like stock Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 @ 1st commando, i really like how simple that is and how good it looks. Cheers the L119 is typical of kit used by UKSF in that it is simple and works with no silly extras bolted on left right and centre  Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) i guess its a good thing my PVS14 didnt sell, because it looks awesome on this. i might add an aimpoint in front of the PVS14. on thursday i also have to rewire it to the rear with a large connector, and get a battery pouch. -Joe Edited November 4, 2008 by masakarijoe Link to post Share on other sites
Fellowz Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 quick question on lipo's  which ones featured on ebaybanned.com will fit in the stock tube of a an M4?  cheers Link to post Share on other sites
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