my_plague_666 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I beg to differ. This is airsoft. i beg to differ. both of those photos are of real guns and real soldiers. as rusher said, in real life helmets, visors etc may make it difficult to get your eye level low enough in a short space of time. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Plus, they'll have zero'd those sights. Unlike airsofters, for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Those helmets preclude decent cheek welds on that AK - it makes perfect sense. Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) Okay, so the CYMA CM040 AK74M showed up today. It is not full steel, but it is made of awesomeness and win. It has the correct AK74 latch (which the DBoys does not) and a steel stock latch as well as trunnion. There is no stock wobble. The hopup is quality metal and it has a 6.04mm barrel stock. I have a chrono here somewhere, if I can find it I'll update with the velocity. Rear sight is 1000m marked, and has white paint in the numbers. Overall the quality seems to be really nice, easily better than the DBoys offering. It's a great value for the money. Don't know anything about the included stock battery, it's kind of nice (1400mAh, Intellect clone) but I don't know how well it will perform as I use LiPos and LiIons. Orange tip courtesy of RSOV: *edit - forgot to mention, the barrel trunnion is devoid of any markings. There's no factory mark, no serial, etc. I like that, actually, I think I'm gonna take it to get engraved with the Izmash mark and a custom serial. *edit 2 - This gun hates MAG RPK midcaps, but will feed from any other AEG mag I have, including other MAG mids, a G&P midcap in an E. German shell, Unicorn, DBoys, CYMA (both 47 and 74), Marui, and G&G. Odd. Edited December 18, 2008 by PlasticMag Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Got it to feed with RPK mags, so here's my brand new CYMA AK74M: And, of course, my Unicorn AKS74U with an East German AK74 mag (modded with G&P internals): Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost Leader Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) meet sasha more pics with sasha at: http://picasaweb.google.ro/ghostleader.one...onryKalashAKS74# Edited December 18, 2008 by Ghost Leader Link to post Share on other sites
ecosystemboy Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 meet sasha more pics with sasha at: http://picasaweb.google.ro/ghostleader.one...onryKalashAKS74# Might want to change the mag, champ. Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost Leader Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Might want to change the mag, champ. why? what is wrong with this mag? Link to post Share on other sites
Moody Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 If ya gotta ask big man, you shouldn't own it Link to post Share on other sites
Carter Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 AK74s don't use 7.62mm rounds, which is why the magazie you are using is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost Leader Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 ok, I know that... but I wanted a full metal magazine instead of abs version Link to post Share on other sites
lovecraft25 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) AK74s don't use 7.62mm rounds, which is why the magazie you are using is wrong. Do you know that Izhmash produces "AK74" chambered in 7.62, with the skeleton stock ? Edited December 19, 2008 by lovecraft25 Link to post Share on other sites
Crumbelievable Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Do you know that Izhmash produces "AK74" chambered in 7.62, with the skeleton stock ? Not to mention the hundreds of custom jobs stateside, "khyber pass" and Uzbeki AKMs (although these often have an AKM flashider and gas block, they still have '74 sidefolding stocks). There are probably a couple thousand of those type of 7.62 chambering, 74 style sidefolders on the planet, so it's a valid mag choice. If you took an AK103, swapped the stock and furniture for that of an AK74, you'd have Ghost Leader's rifle, and it'd only take you like twenty minutes to do. Link to post Share on other sites
bombermonk Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Do you know that Izhmash produces "AK74" chambered in 7.62, with the skeleton stock ? This is ######. Ak74 just don't spit 7.62. AK104 do. AK104 != ak74 And they don't have wood handguards. Link to post Share on other sites
Scharf Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Not to mention the hundreds of custom jobs stateside, "khyber pass" and Uzbeki AKMs (although these often have an AKM flashider and gas block, they still have '74 sidefolding stocks). There are probably a couple thousand of those type of 7.62 chambering, 74 style sidefolders on the planet, so it's a valid mag choice. If you took an AK103, swapped the stock and furniture for that of an AK74, you'd have Ghost Leader's rifle, and it'd only take you like twenty minutes to do. veeeeeery veeery "smart" reply. If you consider the custom jobs as a argument you may run around with a hair dryer and calling it "my motofoka custom ak" you need to uderstand that there are "unwriten rules" that are used to identify AKs, ofcourse you can do what ever you waaaant with your AK but dont go around AK purist and using that cheap argument about Real steal customs Link to post Share on other sites
Crumbelievable Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) veeeeeery veeery "smart" reply. If you consider the custom jobs as a argument you may run around with a hair dryer and calling it "my motofoka custom ak" you need to uderstand that there are "unwriten rules" that are used to identify AKs, ofcourse you can do what ever you waaaant with your AK but dont go around AK purist and using that cheap argument about Real steal customs Arguably, yes, but that would be silly; the reality is, in airsoft terms (and to some degree, rs), theres little to nothing to differentiate between the posted AK and, for instance, this Saiga, which is the aforementioned Izhmash product (an AK103); My point was it's a little silly to get bogged down in "wrong mag!" semantics when, either through mass manufacture or one off custom jobs, people are using real steel versions of pretty much that rifle. Edited December 19, 2008 by Crumbelievable Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 that, my friend is a civvie rifle with old school furniture if he wants a 7.62 mag in it and also wants a military rifle he ought to get some Dboys AK74M furniture for it. then it would be an AK103 Link to post Share on other sites
Rambo Kid Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) After spending over an hour reading every post of this thread, I have decided on a Kalashnikov. They are truely amazing. I'm thinking about either getting a Dboys AK74S, a Dboys AKS74U, or a Dboys AK74. Yeah, I love wood furniture. Any thoughts? EDIT: Will MAG midcap magazines work with these guns? How hard will it be to install aftermarket/RS parts, incase I ever get really into the AK scene (which I hope to). Can someone link me to a good sling, preferably RS? Thanks... Edited December 19, 2008 by Rambo Kid Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 dboys guns need a bit of filing on the mag catch for most mags to fit. if you want to put RS parts on you could always look into getting the new cyma AK74M (like plasticmag's, just up the page) cyma internals are nicer and if what he says is true so is the build quality of the new guns. just swap out the furniture for a skeleton stock and some wood handguards. oh, on both of them RS handguards will fit with little to no mods. Link to post Share on other sites
Rambo Kid Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) dboys guns need a bit of filing on the mag catch for most mags to fit. if you want to put RS parts on you could always look into getting the new cyma AK74M (like plasticmag's, just up the page) cyma internals are nicer and if what he says is true so is the build quality of the new guns. just swap out the furniture for a skeleton stock and some wood handguards. oh, on both of them RS handguards will fit with little to no mods. Thanks! Ok, I guess I'll get one of these and slap a skeleton stock and a RS wood handguard on there. Is the battery located in the stock? If so, how hard would it be to relocate it to where ever it would go with a sleleton stock? Where can I find a good (steel preferably) skeleton stock and some RS wood handguards? What would I have to do to install the skeleton stock? Is it as easy as just removing the full stock and replacing it with the skeleton one? Sorry for all the questions, I'm just excited about purchasing my first Kalashnikov. Edited December 19, 2008 by Rambo Kid Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 first off, ignore that one. that one is all pot metal. this is what you're after: http://rsov.com/index.php?target=products&...product_id=3230 this one is made with a good helping of steel oh, and the batter is under the reciever cover. the stock is as easy as knocking out the pin and attaching the stock. email these folk: http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/index.html they tend to sell handguards, i i should imagine could sort you out with a stock as well Link to post Share on other sites
Rambo Kid Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 first off, ignore that one. that one is all pot metal. this is what you're after: http://rsov.com/index.php?target=products&...product_id=3230 this one is made with a good helping of steel oh, and the batter is under the reciever cover. the stock is as easy as knocking out the pin and attaching the stock. email these folk: http://www.avtomats-in-action.com/index.html they tend to sell handguards, i i should imagine could sort you out with a stock as well Do you know of any US based retailer that carrys the Cyma 040C AK74M? I need to order it ASAP (so it will get here before Christmas) and I don't think RSOV will get it to me in time. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) not that i know of i'm afraid. it's only a recent release in hong kong if you NEED it before christmas then your best bet would be a Dboys (no point in swapping stocks, just get an AKS74), express shipping from HK can be as little as 3-4 days so it could get to you in time. the RK.01S is their only full steel model at the moment by the way, try not to confuse it with their other AKSU (same name minus the S at the end, sometimes falsely stated as full steel). if you were going for an authentic russian impression it might be worth bearing in mind that an AKS74 would be the most versatile. edit: beat ya Edited December 19, 2008 by my_plague_666 Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 No one does. I had to import mine. Link to post Share on other sites
Rambo Kid Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 PlasticMag, do you own a Dboys AK? If so, how does it compare to your Cyma AK74M? I need it before Christmas, but I don't want to buy a Dboys if it's going to be a worthless wallhanger... Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
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