-MOOSE- Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 A solid plate could help to stiffen it up a little bit, but I would imagine that it will still become more loose as you go through magazines. This is generally a con with the 'Satch series except those without sown in pouches. I've heard this from a few different owners now and there seems to be no real way of solving it as far as I know. Unless it loosens to a point where the rig will sag a lot I do not think this should be such a problem, however, everyone has different preferences. Maybe if you add the ESStac KYWI inserts it might help with the sagging as you will still have the pouches filled without carrying a magazine in each pouch. The member FrogFish on this board did a slight modification to these inserts to keep them from spreading out so much, a very simple but effective way of taking are of a problem, he did a great job. Here's a link to the ESStac KYWI's: http://www.skdtac.com/Esstac-556-KYWI-Kydex-Wedge-Insert-p/ess.213.htm Link to post Share on other sites
ericfine50 Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 The 'Satch series is meant to have a plate in it, that is how it was designed. you may want to try a rigid fake plate in the rear to see if that helps. Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 It helps, but it doesn't remove the problem entirely. Link to post Share on other sites
Triple Z Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Yeah I will try and pick up some fake plates or just make something more rigid and hopefully that will help. I really want a new rig, either an HSGI weesatch or something completely different... I think the kydex inserts would def. help but honestly the rig is a $60 replica and the inserts would cost more haha Link to post Share on other sites
Dew Key (Dewk) Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Unfortunately, that is the major design flaw of the satch series. The only one not effected would be the woosatch, as it dose not use the intergrated pouches. Apparently HSGI release side plate carriers for the satch series to 1) fix the sagging issue 2) Add more molle space as well as a place for side plates. Link to post Share on other sites
kojak Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Ha, airsofting and cheapness don't go together too well. Plus, KYWI inserts are only $6: These are single 7.62 inserts (they hold every M4 and AK mag I've tried) held to the proper tension with Velcro wrap in my fake Wasatch. It only took a couple to make the sag go away. I did this before the double inserts came out, but I don't mind trading a little capacity for the extra stability when empty and faster reloads. Link to post Share on other sites
ericfine50 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I have the double inserts from SKD and they work great in my Weesatch. Link to post Share on other sites
Triple Z Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Ha, airsofting and cheapness don't go together too well. Plus, KYWI inserts are only $6: These are single 7.62 inserts (they hold every M4 and AK mag I've tried) held to the proper tension with Velcro wrap in my fake Wasatch. It only took a couple to make the sag go away. I did this before the double inserts came out, but I don't mind trading a little capacity for the extra stability when empty and faster reloads. Yeah, tell that to my real eotech 552 sitting on my kwa m4 haha I just got this vest 2 years ago when I was just starting out and it has lasted this long with lots of use, I'm hapy with it but would love a real one...and I do want to get the double stack kind for 556 mags, they are $15 each but...thats the same price as the vest (i only need 4)...oh well:) Link to post Share on other sites
Crash2010 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 My Pantac Weesatch: Front Back: This will have to do until my Woosatch Comes in. Crash Link to post Share on other sites
Triple Z Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Ok I ordered fake sapi plates and am waiting for skdtac get the double kywi back in, they have been out of stock for a while now... Link to post Share on other sites
ODST_NE0 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 My Pantac Weesatch Kit List Weesatch (Pantac) Fake ESAPI Plates [Filled with Plaster and Urethane Plastic to 5.5lbs] (Pantac) ESAPI Side Plate Carrier [put lunch box cooler packs in there for the summer] (HSGI) 3x TACO Pouches (HSGI) iPouch (Condor) Map Pouch (Condor) Hydration Pack (Condor) Double M4 Pouch (Condor) U94 PTT (Element) Rip-Away EMT Pouch (Condor) [Carries actual first aid equipment] EMT Shears 2x 550 Paracord Weaves 4x Double Stack 556 KYWI [tighten down with 550](Esstac) Grimlock (Condor) Link to post Share on other sites
ericfine50 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 How do you like the side pouches that make it into a plate carrier? Link to post Share on other sites
ODST_NE0 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 I love them, with the combination of the KYWI inserts they really help stabilize the rig and prevent it from moving around on the run, and does lower the profile a tad bit too. The only down side is that it does limit the ventilation, but not as bad compared to a lot of other plate carrier designs. Also the ESAPI pouches are meant for side armor only, you can't effectively use them as mag pouches due to the design. Personally for me, the pros out weighted the cons. It's also nice to have a little more Molle real estate to mount a some low profile pouches. Link to post Share on other sites
ericfine50 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Thanks for the information. Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 A small modification I did to my Pantac WSH: Getting rid of the back panel. It is doable just using original parts, but I chose to use an extra OD bit from another gear. Link to post Share on other sites
Dew Key (Dewk) Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 This thread need much reviving.... My HSGI WeeSatch. Link to post Share on other sites
sigmaboy Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Just played my first game in close to 2 years yesterday so i figured i'd snap a picture or two while i had all my gear unpacked. Also hoping that this revive will get some more people posting photos of their satches. here's the current evolution of my Guarder Weesatch: Also picture: VFC 416 and CA SPR Link to post Share on other sites
FHairsoft1 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Sigma-how did you attach your pack? Link to post Share on other sites
sigmaboy Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 It's just molle'd onto the back panel. Link to post Share on other sites
sectionfive Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 can i bring this back to life ? i do love a good satch . mine is currently being brought out of retirement and updated accordingly . Link to post Share on other sites
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