LordElpus Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Magpul PTS MASADA/ACR is on the way. More good news coming. Please be patient. I would have thought something would have been done already seeing as the orginal news post on this was released January 2007 Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 You should all be happy that for once there is an Real Deal Arms manufacturer going all the way to make a AEG of their own creation. If you ask me, the pics shown of the Magpul accessories are finished products. If they show pics of work in progress they have a higher risk of ACM's cloning their design. Whatever you may say. that ACM masada lookalike is probably made out of ABS and not polymer. If the exterior of the Airsoft Masada is as good as the RS version, which probably will be, then I wouldn't be wasting time or money on that ACM thing. I do hope for reasonable pricing (starting 350 till 500 USD) and not Systema PTW pricing. Link to post Share on other sites
Utty Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Please be patient. Request denied. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I think you will be deluding yourself if you expect the Magpul one to be sub £350. It would have to have glowing reviews and the acm one proved to be not salvageable to buy it. The question though.. Are Magpul now releasing a full aeg or are they still doing what they advertised Jan 07 and you need to supply the gearbox? Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I think you will be deluding yourself if you expect the Magpul one to be sub £350. It would have to have glowing reviews and the acm one proved to be not salvageable to buy it. The question though.. Are Magpul now releasing a full aeg or are they still doing what they advertised Jan 07 and you need to supply the gearbox? Look don't get this the wrong way, but Airsoft in Britain is not very cheap compared to other places in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites
RSP1 Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 ...probably made out of ABS and not polymer. ??? Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 ??? He means the ACM version= more then likely ABS for the plastics, and the Magpul PTS version= probably Polymer like in their Pmags. I think its called Dupont polymer? Link to post Share on other sites
Sonny Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I dont mind the wait as long as its done correctly, and priced within reason. I just wish we could see some progress. Link to post Share on other sites
Frakk2k Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Its pretty funny how fast the Chineese work, must be intimidating for proud american business :/ If Magpul want to compete with airsoft manufacturers, they should release cheap versions of RS exteriors. (Like stocks and stuff. Doesnt need to be RS strength and whatnot, its just for looks anyways.). Unless they want to pour lots of money down a research pipe, and create some new AS stuff (and most RS firearms manufactures just think AS is something funny for their kids to play with.. Soo, can't really see that happening). Link to post Share on other sites
InexcelsisDeo Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 i'm pretty sure ACM and Magpul can coexist. ACM is making the Masada, the prototype of the ACR, which is this Magpul is making the ACR, the finished project, which is this i'm pretty sure some ppl will buy both. not everyone will just buy one or the other. i'm definitely getting the ACM, but if the price is right, the magpul as well. tbh, the prototype magpul looks 20x better than the ACR Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 i'm pretty sure ACM and Magpul can coexist. ACM is making the Masada, the prototype of the ACR, which is this Magpul is making the ACR, the finished project, which is this i'm pretty sure some ppl will buy both. not everyone will just buy one or the other. i'm definitely getting the ACM, but if the price is right, the magpul as well. tbh, the prototype magpul looks 20x better than the ACR for the most part the look the same only really noticeable difference cosmetically is the charging handle, because you can get the hanguards and stocks from your masada picture and put it on the acr. and cant wait for a tan acr . and Sonny i completely agree with with you on the going it correctly. Link to post Share on other sites
D.O.C. Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 "i'm pretty sure ACM and Magpul can coexist. ACM is making the Masada, the prototype of the ACR, which is this" "Magpul is making the ACR, the finished project, which is this" Where did you see a major difference between the prototype and the ACR production model beside the RIS foregrip, which was planned by Magpul from the beginning? Masada prototype in carbine length/with RIS module: Masada at shotshow 07: Cant wait for the Magpul "original" PTS version, I own many RS and AS items from Magpul and their quality is just outstanding Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Yea thats what im saying D.O.C, and i agree i cant wait either every time i a picture of the real one it looks better and better. Link to post Share on other sites
InexcelsisDeo Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Where did you see a major difference between the prototype and the ACR production model beside the RIS foregrip, which was planned by Magpul from the beginning? i never said it was a major difference, but its a significant enough difference for some airsofters to buy both of them. it's not just the handguard, but the charging handle as well. to me, it's different enough to justify buying both, say, a ACM/JLS masada in tan/DE and an Magpul ACR in black/grey. and there's a fair chance, that the ACM/JLS masada and the magpul ACR will have different stocks. the standard stock on the new magpul ACR has changed from the old masada, http://magpul.com/detroit2.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
InexcelsisDeo Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 and to go off topic, if anyone rocks anything but multicam while theyre using a acr/masada, they shall be shot , lol jk. i cant picture any other camo that'd go with the masada/acr Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 How about desert Marpat. oh yea i just went there , and I mean if you showed the same set up for the Masada and ACR it would look the same to the untrained eye, and if you dont like the stock on the acr you can probably buy the folding/callapsable stock. personally i will never by the ACM one even though the PTs version will most likely be very expensive its just something about buying a gun from the sister company or what ever you want to call Magpul PTS of the company that actually makes the real steel gun, that makes respect them alot more and the fact that they do make quality products earns them my money. Link to post Share on other sites
BentleyCntlGT Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 So will the airsoft gun made by Magpul look like... This, or.. That? I'm really hoping its the first, one... I wouldn't even buy the second one. Link to post Share on other sites
0nslaught Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 So will the airsoft gun made by Magpul look like... http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Magpul-Mas...00_8656_img.jpg This, or.. http://magpul.com/detroit1.jpg That? I'm really hoping its the first, one... I wouldn't even buy the second one. hopefully the second one, and thats just the railed handguard. you can get the same handguard thats on the first picture on the ACR too. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 So will the airsoft gun made by Magpul look like... This, or.. That? I'm really hoping its the first, one... I wouldn't even buy the second one. The first pic doesn't work but you can always switch out handguards and barrels, and stocks to get the look you want, i myself am quite fond of the 18" barrel, Mid length non railed handguard, with fixed and/or folding stock , but ill probably end up with both tan and black versions and all the parts to make each the carbine lengths and SBR lengths, my wallet will never forgive me afterwards though. Link to post Share on other sites
acem4 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I prefer the one that looks like a g36 hybryd. The railed one lookes like another SCAR (UGLY) If I want a gun that looks like a lego ill buy a scar. I realize there both the same but the railed one looks like-> A S S Link to post Share on other sites
acem4 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Ha you better hurry guys wither were patient or not. The ACM is coming out before your so called PTS MASADA, then your out of luck and ill buy theres. As will plenty of other people. Magpul PTS MASADA/ACR is on the way. More good news coming. Please be patient. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I know i wont be buying the ACM one as i've stated before, but on another note id rather them take their time and get it right then them doing it fast, and be worse the the acm one. come on Magpul do your thing,and i also promise you i will not buy the Acm one Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I think its great that RS manufacturers are getting into developing/licensing new designs of high quality (hopefully) AEGs. I'd support them over ACM if quality and price are along the lines of, say, VFC. Link to post Share on other sites
waxxer Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 i'm definitely getting the ACM.. that is unless Magpul doesnt hunt down the ACM first. tbh, I have and love Magpul products, but sometimes they are just too slow with airsoft stuff. though you can already buy two versions of the PTS PMAG, you cant buy none of them from the PTS shop. http://www.magpul-pts.com/catalog/ as Sonny said "I just wish we could see some progress." snapping a few pictures would be nice. and check this out: Im very happy with my MIAD PTS ver2, but if a removable ACM A panel MIAD can be done, why not a PTS version? that would cut the costs of giving away another MIAD body with a different A panel. Link to post Share on other sites
Redcap Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 here's an observation regarding the "Infringement of Patent and Copyright" notice sent to Airsoft EU: Look at the grammar used in it. Can anyone say Japlish? Given that Magpul Industries are based in the USA, you would honestly think that they would have a better command of the English language, wouldn't you? Summation and assessment: This is in all probability a well crafted hoax that Airsoft EU, not expecting to be hit in this regard, took to be gospel. They aren't the first news organisation to be scammed in this manner, and won't be the last. My guess? Another Chinese outfit are looking to cash in on the bandwagon, and were looking for a bit of free advertising. Call me a cynic, but I've seen it happen before, and I've been around Airsoft for the best part of two decades now. Link to post Share on other sites
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