Wrench Bender Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 MSA Icom single comm cable with ptt. For use with high.low noise haedsets with bone mic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Very nice catch Wrench Bender. Where did you score that? Also looks like it would go good with those Sordin headsets that have the hardwired downlead for that particular PTT and the bone mic right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench Bender Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Picked it up on ebay for 255ish with the low noise headset, and yes, it will work with the other sordins that pop up on there at times with the bone mic. I tried picking up another pair of them but will not spend mroe than.... well, I am a cheap fatherless son... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I hear you on that man. Looks like I've gotta keep ma damn eyes open. Even though the Peltors are doing me good with the HT1000's I've got, I'd still like to get some Icom's and Sordins up and running soon. Wrench, did you see the Sordin headset on Ebay right now with the multiple connector box thing? Where you can plug in more than one radio I believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Touchette Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 My new pick-ups that are now for sale: I don't yet have pictures of the stuff I'm actually keeping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench Bender Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I hear you on that man. Looks like I've gotta keep ma damn eyes open. Even though the Peltors are doing me good with the HT1000's I've got, I'd still like to get some Icom's and Sordins up and running soon. Wrench, did you see the Sordin headset on Ebay right now with the multiple connector box thing? Where you can plug in more than one radio I believe. Yes, but he has no radio interfacve cables with it. I have exchanged a couple of emails with the guy and he either has no idea what he is selling or is full of ###### with what he has. You would still need to get interface cables to make it work. Icoms being the cheapest at about 120 each, with all other systems you basicly add another 250 or so to that initial 120. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Does any one have any experience with TCI liberator II's. Im looking at getting a set but i can only find one review. So basically are they any good or would i be better off with comtac's or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench Bender Posted May 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 I have found that they are purpose built for one radio. The Ptt's at times are hard wired to them so you can not plug them into another system. Which models would you be getting. They based their original system on Peltor then Peltor 2's and finaly sordins. Which if I am not mistaken they make a lot of the sordin based Ranger communication systems for MSA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Ild be getting the one made for the bowman. Doesnt come with a ptt but it fits right in the one on the radio. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wrench Bender Posted May 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 They make good headsets for sure. If you are thinking of buying directly from them I might suggest keeping your eyes out on ebay. You will the sordins go on there for a fraction of the cost TCI will charge you for their stuff. And the sordin will be wired for NATO standard, which is what your bowman should be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nice catch Touchette, but why sell some?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pulsipher Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Push the PTT on the headset and the radio at the same time. It's pretty much the only way. On the plus side, if you buy an ICOM (which I highly recommend you do), the headset will work flawlessly with it. will try that does ICOM make a freaking FRS/GMRS radio? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 ICOM's come available in UHF 440mhz-470mhz which allows you to program the radio to FRS/GMRS frequencies with the right hardware and software. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 TheFlash and I have been working on our own functional Blade Antennas for our team: Folded up: Extended: Basic Communications setup (switched the radio to the left side later on): Based on an initial design TheFlash came up with, he and I went through multiple prototypes before finally coming up with ones that worked, and worked well. Having a long antenna isn't the hard part. The hard part was making a blade antenna that could be repeatedly folded up as many times as needed and still be able to revert back to its extended state cleanly and consistently (and stayed relatively rigid so you can run around with it in that extended state). I think we went through three generations of R&D, a painful amount of trial and error, and a lot of wasted material before we finally came up with the finished prototype. The above pictures are the first pics we took a few weeks back of the first production model (although we did change the extension cable to a meatier MilSpec cable after these pics were taken). We then went onto make a dozen more for the team. More "In theater" pics to follow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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binarypunisher Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Have you guys ran tests with them? What freqs are they optimized for? And Pulsipher, if you need help I can program the most popular icom handhelds for you (F30/40/50 and F4/F3). Edited May 31, 2009 by binarypunisher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 We ran quite a few tests before cranking out the first dozen for our team. Our first set of tests were conducted in an urban area near an airport and marina, so the entire area is absolutely bombarded with interference but we still experienced well over 2x the range of the standard ICOM antenna. We also tested them in the local mountains and they covered more area than we cared to explore; still well beyond the range of the standard antenna. I only tested with UHF, but one of our teammates experienced the same results using VHF via an ICOM F3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
binarypunisher Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 So it sounds like they arent optimized for a frequency? Was this when antenna was folded up or unfolded? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 No, not optimized but definitely significantly better than the standard 5" antenna that came with the radio. Most of us ran with them folded like I have in the pics and we had a lot more range than the regular antenna users. When TheFlash and I first tested the blade antenna one person had the blade antenna, the other had a regular antenna. As the distance between the two radios grew, the radio with the short antenna started to have crackly comms, whereas the blade antenna still received crystal clear. At one point using the short antenna, I could broadcast and the blade antenna would pick it up, but when TheFlash replied using the bladed radio, I couldn't hear it on my end as the short antenna simply didn't have the range. So, not "optimized" persay, but definitely better, even with it folded up like in the pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 My hat is off to both of you guys for that! I gotta say I'm loving it, and when I get some Icoms my way, could definately use something like that, especially since I do a bit of off roading out in the desert, I'd definately would like to try something like that with as much distance as possible. What model Icoms were you guys using? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 usmcCorps, you mentioned in some of the other threads you might possibly be selling these, how much would the price point be? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Ditto on that one! Would be highly interested in picking some up. As well as a breakdown of what is needed to get it up and running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 These will plug and play into any radio that takes an MX antenna, or any radio that takes a BNC antenna. This includes Motorola radios with removable antenna's like the Saber. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pforcerecon Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 What about Motorola HT1000's? If so how much to have one made up or put together? Damn now makes me wish I didn't sell my motorola's!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) You can buy THIS to make your radio take a BNC antenna, and our system will plug right in. Edited June 1, 2009 by ThaFlash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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