sp00n Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Arent you talking 6K $ for a decent armalite? Maybe more I think? And theres little chance I thought of a civilian getting an xm8 or even a g36? Even in the US I thought these were not openly available...I could be totally wrong, just something I heard. But I do know that real rifles cost quite a bit more than airsoft for sure although some pistols are closer in price to their airsoft eqivelants. If I was in the states i`d be buying real guns but in the uk we might not even be allowed to buy any more fake guns!!! People seem to dis Enzo quite a bit - dont know why.... nothing wrong with loving your guns <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can easily get an AR-15 for less than $800US. Link to post Share on other sites
Ou811 Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Yeah man my uncle just purchased a new bush master CARBON ar-15 for somewhere around the 850-900 range Link to post Share on other sites
Ledpocket Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Just to move back into airsoft land... I have a few real steel guns, but many more airsoft. I'm a collector first, and a skirmisher 2nd. There are many reasons why it makes more sense to buy toys than the real thing ($, age, laws, range availability, kids in the house, etc, etc) On that note: I don't think I ever posted up pictures of the "aeg shotty" I made last year. It was the mp5pdw lower, kind of hacked into a shotgun looking thing. The battery stored in the shell tube and the bb's were in kind of a hopper in the barrel. It held around 150 or so. The big problem was the homemade hopup was just too sloppy and a really bad fit for the nozzle, so the thing only shot about 20 feet. It was a fun project even if it didn't pan out quite how I imagined it would... Link to post Share on other sites
enzo100 Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 But you've never skirmished. 2k for a bushmaster? You can get a brand new colt for 1300. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I do do a lot of backyard skirmishes and I have played a 4 on 4 match at my friends house...7 acres of field SO I do have some idea, but I WILL SKIRMISH SOON FOR REAL. TOLCOM Link to post Share on other sites
Butter18c Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 (edited) No, a decent Armalite is about $1300 dollars after taxes. Thats how much my bushmaster rifle was. As for the G36, you can get a civi version, you just got to know where to look Edited June 24, 2005 by Butter18c Link to post Share on other sites
Crandall Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 (edited) You can easily get an AR-15 for less than $800US. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> .22 Panther arms are around $600 .223 are around .223, if only I had money. Lets get back on topic, and away from real-steel ok? Edited June 24, 2005 by crandall13 Link to post Share on other sites
rocky164 Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 My KWA G19 with sanded metal slide, upgraded recoild spring, spare mag, and hogue handall grips: I love it to bits Rocky Link to post Share on other sites
Major_Payne Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 i wish i could post updates of my gun but no stupid fedex pretends to come to my house and say that i wasnt home... Link to post Share on other sites
M1911A2 guy Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 But you've never skirmished. 2k for a bushmaster? You can get a brand new colt for 1300. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bushmaster > Colt Colts are not as high quality as some other AR15 manufacturers such as Bushmaster, Wilson Combat, and RRA. Also, the prices I mentioned were for new/very nice used AR15s. Nice pics Grimes. I'm guessing inspired for BHD? Link to post Share on other sites
Machineabuse Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Unless you take into consideration how fussy bushmaster lowers are with mags. Anyway this is off topic Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 (edited) Well, I do do a lot of backyard skirmishes and I have played a 4 on 4 match at my friends house...7 acres of field SO I do have some idea, but I WILL SKIRMISH SOON FOR REAL. TOLCOM <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You dont need to explain yourself to anyone Enzo. I was just busting your balls. Bushmaster > Colt Colts are not as high quality as some other AR15 manufacturers such as Bushmaster, Wilson Combat, and RRA. Also, the prices I mentioned were for new/very nice used AR15s. Nice pics Grimes. I'm guessing inspired for BHD? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Um, 1300 dollars for a colt is also brand new. I dont know who the hell you're paying two thousand dollars to for a bushmaster but you're positively getting ripped off. A brand new carbon 15 is 1075 from bushmaster. A bushmaster 16 inch m4 type patrolmans carbine is 1065. These are MSRP prices direct from bushmaster which means you're most likely going to be paying 800-900 dollars from a good dealer. So again, i really must ask you who the hell you're paying two thousand dollars for a rifle that can be bought for half of that amount. Also, why are bushmasters better than colts? Edited June 25, 2005 by Magsz Link to post Share on other sites
Machineabuse Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 In my experience bushmaster has a better consistency in parts manufacture thanks to their relationship with labelle. But Colt and BM are quite compareble performance wise. It's mostly shooter preference to the wide number of differant models that Bushmaster provides IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
M1911A2 guy Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 (edited) Unless you take into consideration how fussy bushmaster lowers are with mags. Anyway this is off topic <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The short mags don't like the lowers too much, but any Bushmaster I have seen loves our pre-ban military mags. Which is a shame considering the standard Bushmaster magazine has the most problems with their AR15s. Edited June 25, 2005 by M1911A2 guy Link to post Share on other sites
phishphansj3151 Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 (edited) Well, I do do a lot of backyard skirmishes and I have played a 4 on 4 match at my friends house...7 acres of field SO I do have some idea, but I WILL SKIRMISH SOON FOR REAL. TOLCOM <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought BFTII was over like a month ago? Wait is TOLCOM open to play year round? W/e, guess Ill see you next year at BFTIII if you decide to skirmish Led, if your using a real gearbox, shouldnt it fire more than 20ft? Couldnt you just take out the home made hop-up? Edited June 25, 2005 by phishphansj3151 Link to post Share on other sites
Ledpocket Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 phish, the hole front barrel assy was homemade and sucked. I just went on a shotgun buying spree to compensate I cold have re-engineered it, but it just was worth the time. It was fun while it lasted... Link to post Share on other sites
solution_zero Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very nice GRIMES. My ICS A3 will be looking like that here shortly when I purchase a heatguard from Bushmaster. What manufacture are the gun and launcher? Is that a SunProject or a US issued heatguard? P.S. Go with black electrical tape for the mag pulls man. It just looks a lot better. Link to post Share on other sites
sp00n Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Very nice GRIMES. My ICS A3 will be looking like that here shortly when I purchase a heatguard from Bushmaster. What manufacture are the gun and launcher? Is that a SunProject or a US issued heatguard? P.S. Go with black electrical tape for the mag pulls man. It just looks a lot better. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> SunProject, it comes with that heat shield. You can always spot a SP launcher for the mirror like finish of the barrel/grip Im so glad I painted mine flat black. Link to post Share on other sites
HaVoC Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 My KWA G19 with sanded metal slide, upgraded recoild spring, spare mag, and hogue handall grips: <PICS> I love it to bits Rocky I love the slide, grip, recoil spring and spare mag... Link to post Share on other sites
clmwrx Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ummm maybe ill hold onto my m16 and not sell it..... ive always wanted to see the sp m203 mounted hmmm metal body and sp m203 and ill be set damn that costs money tho lol Link to post Share on other sites
sillyrabbit Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 enzo... ignore the haters man... GREAT GUNS!!! you do whatever you want... collect, play WHATEVER!!! everyone else can eat it... Link to post Share on other sites
M1911A2 guy Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 You dont need to explain yourself to anyone Enzo. I was just busting your balls. Um, 1300 dollars for a colt is also brand new. I dont know who the hell you're paying two thousand dollars to for a bushmaster but you're positively getting ripped off. A brand new carbon 15 is 1075 from bushmaster. A bushmaster 16 inch m4 type patrolmans carbine is 1065. These are MSRP prices direct from bushmaster which means you're most likely going to be paying 800-900 dollars from a good dealer. So again, i really must ask you who the hell you're paying two thousand dollars for a rifle that can be bought for half of that amount. Also, why are bushmasters better than colts? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you haven't read it from one of my other replies, then I'll let you know I participate in IPSC Junior competitions in the carbone rifle class. The bUshmaster I ordered form factory wasn't exactly "stock", as in it had some stuff done to before it came into my hands. So I should rephrase myself. MY AR15 cost $2,000, sorry for any misunderstandings. My Ar15 started life as a Bushmaster carbine, stock as hell. Now it is a wild competition carbine worth about twice as much as a stock AR15(as stated by Magz.) The reason my rifle costs $2,000 is because: It has a a JP Enterprises Inc. aluminium vented handguard housing a custom gas return tube(what drives the bolt back every time the weapon is fired) for increased gas flow and function of the action It also has a JP Enterprises compensated muzzle brake that was designed specifically for the hand milled barrel on the gun. Next the semi-auto firing mechanism is an aftermarket RRA model that has an adjustable trigger for a lighter pull. Also, an aftermarket RRA feeding port has been installed on the rifle. BIG misunderstanding, my bad. I bought the gun from Shapels Gun Shop, Boise Idaho. To answer your other question, the Bushmaster over Colt is more of an opinion than a fact. But I don't like the idea of the parts being made in Taiwan and the actual rifles being assemble in China. Not my bag. I like my AR15s all American. So, that was more of an opinion. Just some pics of the gun so nobody pulls the "Thast not teh youss in teh picturerers" Link to post Share on other sites
ziggystardust Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 wait im i retarted, or dont in the usa u have to be 18 to buy a gun, caue u said u ordered it, so im assuming yur parents did. Right? im just asking cause you dont look like you are 18, and u said it was a junior program. I dunno what the law is in boise, but here in cali, u have to be 18 to purchase a long barreled gun, and 21 for a handgun. Link to post Share on other sites
M1911A2 guy Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 (edited) wait im i retarted, or dont in the usa u have to be 18 to buy a gun, caue u said u ordered it, so im assuming yur parents did. Right? im just asking cause you dont look like you are 18, and u said it was a junior program. I dunno what the law is in boise, but here in cali, u have to be 18 to purchase a long barreled gun, and 21 for a handgun. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I, personally didn't buy the gun myself, but I put the package together and helped buy it. My parents let me buy sweapons because they feel I am responsible to be allowed to do so. But no, I myself didn't order the gun, and I myself don't buy guns. I have my father buy them for with my money. BTW, same gun laws apply here in Idaho. PS: IPSC Junior program is for competetors under 18. Edited June 25, 2005 by M1911A2 guy Link to post Share on other sites
rocky164 Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 I love the slide, grip, recoil spring and spare mag... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> wanna buy a broken one for £36.50? great gun though, i should point out that the afore mentioned items belonged to HaVoC which I bought off him, so a spare mag = £20 Slide = £40 Hogue Grips = £10 Recoil Spring = £10 Total = £80! (bought for £30) Link to post Share on other sites
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