Shotgun Picture Thread

[Punkypink]

long enough for a fair few orgasm? XD

 

The hunt is on to find a long hex key for my shotty. no doubt a fair few DE XM1014 owners are now looking for the same thing.

[cryogenic76]

The screw is about 6 or 7 inches long.

 

I suppose if construction supplies are you're thing, this would do the trick.

[dannyboy]

Hmm, bout half the length of the bolt for the M3 stock. I'll ponder, it might work. Thanks for that.

 

[Jin15]

A real Remington M870 stock bolt would do the trick. If you live in the US you can get them quite cheaply at www.midwayusa.com . I believe Midway supplies has several international sites a well.

 

 

On a side note, does anyone know if a G&P Medium Length CA870 metal outer barrel can be fitted to a Maruzen M870 (gas powered, shell ejector)? I know the G&P Long Length CA870 barrel sets can be fitted with some work, but will a Medium length fit?

 

I've had zero success finding a GB-Tech metal M870 outer barrel in stock anywhere so I'm hoping with a little work the G&P barrel would fit.

 

Any thoughts on this?

Edited November 6, 2008 by Jin15

[PornStar]

Mmmmmm shotguns!

 

Can anyone tell me if the internals of the DE M56DL, the one with the collapsable stock, is the same as the other DE shotguns? Ive pretty much decided on this shotty, but I would like to chop the end of the barrel off to make it more compact.

[H.U.N.K]

Mmmmmm shotguns!

 

Can anyone tell me if the internals of the DE M56DL, the one with the collapsable stock, is the same as the other DE shotguns? Ive pretty much decided on this shotty, but I would like to chop the end of the barrel off to make it more compact.

 

 

Cheapie hack-saw and a steady hand will sort that out. Can't comment on the internals however.

 

Congratulations on your first post coupled with your blatant screen name.

[ryan92]

The hunt is on to find a long hex key for my shotty. no doubt a fair few DE XM1014 owners are now looking for the same thing.

 

I had this exact same problem, simple fix for me was to shake the thing for 10 minutes and the whole stock just fell apart and came off, then i just replaced the hex bold with a screw bolt and went down to B&Q to find a long enough and thin enough screw driver, it works a treat now!

[PornStar]

Cheapie hack-saw and a steady hand will sort that out. Can't comment on the internals however.

 

Congratulations on your first post coupled with your blatant screen name.

 

Hehe thanks dood.

 

The reason I ask about the internals is because I would like to know if the tri barrels stop a few inches short of the end of the outer barrel. Just like the TM originals and all the rest of these DE clones.

 

I have checked all the reviews and pictures I could find but I havent been able to find out this info. I would assume they are all exactly the same, but I would just like to make sure.

 

Edit:- For typo

Edited November 8, 2008 by PornStar

[Kenworth W900]

Yeah the barrels are indeed a few inches short mate, same as the TM's. I've checked it out and it looks as though you would only need to cut the barrels down half way (5-6 shell length) to get it down to M3 shorty length.

 

P.s. If you cut it all the way back to the front of the grip area (3-4 shell length) then it would be a few inches shorter than an M3 shorty. That may involve cutting the inner barrels though.

[PornStar]

Awesome, thanking you. Now I just have to find a retailer with them in stock

[Pyromaster]

aah, good old shotties

[hotelkilo]

this was originally a tm m3 full length, its about as short as it can get now whilst still keeping the full stock.

 

at the muzzle there is 15mm difference between the inner and ourter barrels on mine, which is just enough to be able to fit the foresight back on to the outer barrel.. hopefully it'll give you some idea of how much you can cut off these shotties

 

 

 

[DJ Sparky D]

Oh, decisions, decisions...

 

 

 

UTG M3 tri-shot and TSD single shot

[aber_guy11]

What's the best shotgun manufacturer?

[dannyboy]

For what?

 

[aber_guy11]

I don't know. I think I want to get a shotgun but I don't want something crappy. So what would you say is the best? I'm thinking I want a pump gas shotgun.

[Jin15]

For gas powered, your best options for general skirmishing are going to be a Marushin or ACM M500.

They come in 8mm or 6mm flavors... 8mm firing 3 BBs at once and holding less BBs in the internal mag tube, 6mm firing 5 BBs at once and holding around 180 BBs in the internal magazine tube. No shells needed so they're quite skirmishable. I'd go with the 6mm personally but that's just me.

 

Do expect the charging arms to break at some point though, but when that happens you can get a set of Private Parts steel charging arms that will hold up quite nicely over the long run for $25 or so.

 

 

Or if you'd rather have realism than skirmish practicality and you plan to only play indoor CQB games with your shotgun than a Maruzen M870 is fine too. They're quite realistic in the fact that they load and operate just like a real shotgun. There is gas tank in the stock and it uses shells that each hold 1 to 9 BBs. Load the shells in the mag tube, rack the pump to chamber a shell, after firing the shell is ejected out the ejection port.

 

Lovely operation and lots of fun, but the power is woefully weak if you put more than a few BBs in each shell (expect 50 ft range with six 0.2g BBs in the shell and green gas) and since it does eject shells after every shot I'd suggest buying one of these only for indoor CQB games. These shotguns can work quite well in games where the range is very close and you're playing indoors so there's no chance of losing shells when they hit the ground, but don't expect to ever skirmish with one of these buggers outside or at any decent range.

 

 

 

So yeah, there you have it! My picks for gas operated skirmishable shotguns

 

 

[aber_guy11]

Wow, thanks. Yeah I would most likely only use it for CQB as a backup. I want something with just a pistol grip and a short barrel.

[Fin]

Do expect the charging arms to break at some point though, but when that happens you can get a set of Private Parts steel charging arms that will hold up quite nicely over the long run for $25 or so.

 

Source for those? I can only find them for around $50, most sold out

[Jin15]

Sorry Fin, source is Airsoft GI... a US based retailer.

They may ship internationally, but I somewhat doubt it since they ship everything UPS.

 

Aber, sorry to say the Maruzen M870 is not currently available with a pistol grip, they only come from the factory with traditional style full stocks (which is where the gas tank is housed). However, if you can source a broken Maruzen M1100 Revision you can steal the pistol grip (which the gas tank is housed in) off that. Stay away from the M1100s as complete guns though, they have a very short lifespan (a few weeks in most cases) due some severe internal design flaws which are impossible for most people, professional airsmiths included, to fix.

 

Alternately, if you're not big on the traditional shotgun stock style and got a Maruzen M870 you could install a one of these G&P M4 style stocks that come with a gas tank built into the buffer tube ---> http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?i...C-391_srch_m870

 

 

Hope that helps!

[aber_guy11]

I would just prefer something with no stock at all. I think it would be lighter and easier to carry. Are there any real drawbacks to using a spring shotgun? I've used a TM SPAS12 springer a couple times and it wasn't all that bad. However, I really don't like the look of the SPAS and would prefer something like the 870 or 1100.

[ED-SKaR]

are you after a real shotgun, or just a tiny backup gun that pumps like a shotgun.

 

 

CA870s, and the UTG/DE clones are single BB springer rifles in the shell of a shotgun £20, or $40 (probs cheaper)

 

 

TM or clone M3 shortie, is in my opinion the best ballence between realism, and scirmisability. pretty powerfull with three BBs, each going 280, but it feals like more when 3 hit you at the same time.

The new clone m1014 (as used by US marines) has identical internals as the m3. The barrels are longer than the m3 shortie, but you get a colapsing stock. this means you can use it as a shortie shotgun with no stock, or extend the stock when you want to use it as primary, and yes, it is good enough to be primary.

 

I honestly would not recomend a maruzen m870 as backup, even though they are much more relyable than their m1100 brothers they are still not perfect. Shell ejection is cool, and means you get a very good spread of BBs (up to ten if you get the power to push that many BBs). Plus you would want a shell catcher, and that could get damaged when its slung on your back / in scabbard.

[Noart]

don't you guys feel that the M3 shoty is a *badgeress* to aim (fast) with? the lack of stock makes me confused then i use my local sites m3.

Edited November 17, 2008 by Noart

[Pkekyo-Nor]

Shorty-style shotguns are not supposed to be aimed, they are 'in general direction'-weapons, and you should use them as such

if you want to aim at stuff, get a stocked one

[ED-SKaR]

with stock is so much better than no stock. I loved my first m3 (shortie with full stock) that i baught a second one (shortie with full stock) then baught front end from the full lenght m3 for kicks .

 

however i know people who use pure shorties (and a full lenght with no stock!!) and can aim them rather well just raising to eye level and holding loose.

Edited November 18, 2008 by ED-SKaR