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MARPAT works very well here too all year long.

 

I think it's the fact it's one of the few camo patterns that actually has a decent amount of brown. I've been saying for years now that brown is easily one of the best adaptive colour for various environments, and we see it a lot more than all the black that currently appears on guns/camo uniforms/boots/gloves/LBE hardware like buckles etc.

 

Jealous, I use either US woodland or MARPAT (later being team cammo) and would love a set in either of those patterns (or both to be greedy with an arid set to round it off haha)...Im going to have to keep a better eye out on that generic Internet auction site.

 

I've not looked too extensively I must admit, but as far as I can gather issued kit like this isn't ever offered to distributors from the original manufacturers (american apparel in the case of that set) so eBay is the only place to really pick up this kinda thing really.

 

The rifleman I bought that set from was just on his way off to afghan and it was all box-folded (i.e. in to neat squares) just like I used to do at recruit training. Then individually packaged in plasticised paper postage bags and then put in to a cardboard shipping box. Can't really grumble about that.

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I think it's the fact it's one of the few camo patterns that actually has a decent amount of brown.

Yup. MARPAT is -I'd say- about 40% brown, 30% green and 30% black and it works really well in light and dark situations. The neutral shades of the brown and green really are in the middle of the palette that you see in the forest, making it blend virtually with everything.

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Can you fit a broken down AR in the Hazard 4 bag? I've been looking at the Extended Go-Bag just for that reason.

 

If you are trying to stuff an upper in there go with the Extended Go-Bag, the Hazard 4 can barely fit a 10.5" with a SCAR hider on it. My plan if I ever run a spare upper is to make a scabbard for it and mount it to the side.

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is there a significant difference in the bulk? does the APC feel bulkier than a JPC, right now the low profile of the JPC is why I'm using it, but with too much kit its very ungainly.

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ff - I've only used a clone JPC and had a play about with a gen one for a bit but based on that the APC really doesn't feel any heavier, when worn it's no bulkier either.

I put this down to the APC's construction; firstly being 500D which isn't groundbreaking but how it's put together is smart and almost basic in how the various parts are layered.

You only have 1 piece of material between you and the plate, the velcro used on the closure/fitting parts is thin (not in a bad way, it still has plenty of bite), the front and rear cummberbund sections are layered on top of the plate pockets reducing the amount of material and meaning there's no folds of nylon/velcro. The cummberbund is thinner than the JPC design and if your are running it slick is way flat and light, but is far more flexible due to the 2 internal sections for plates/insert or 'roo pouches.

APCs sit high as well helping with mobility.

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well I'm just curious where it would fall between a JPC and a CPC, I have both, but find the CPC is a bit much for my recent outings that consist of whatever fits into my kit box, but once overloaded the JPC sits rather oddly and wnds up hurting my back over longer periods of use, especially with plates and live rounds.

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I couldn't really get my JPC to work for me, it felt to small. If you load it up for some DA task it pulls to much, with plates, water and stuff it can get to much. With the APC i feel i get a proper assault vest that can store all my junk, and still allow me to move freely and go into all the shooting positions.

 

My kit list.

 

Secondline

Mayflower APC DD.

EI Magpouch. AOR1

Crye smoke pouch. AOR1

Radio in cummerbund.

LBT x3 grenade pouch. AOR1

LBT Hydration. AOR1

 

Bucket

Ops core / Base jump (Paint job by Søren).

S&S V-lites.

VIP light.

ContourHD.

IR flag.

 

Uniform

Crye combat pants, Navy custom.

Crye combatshirt, Navy custom

Bates M9, Tan 8".

EI shell pouch for medkit, Khaki.

 

Misc

Invisio X5.

IR flags.

IR chemlights.

Oakley SI Assault glove.

Oakley M-frame.

CAT and aid kit

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I couldn't really get my JPC to work for me, it felt to small. If you load it up for some DA task it pulls to much, with plates, water and stuff it can get to much. With the APC i feel i get a proper assault vest that can store all my junk, and still allow me to move freely and go into all the shooting positions.

 

That's exactly how I felt when I made the switch last month.

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PJ-influenced loadout, with a bit of MP7 mixed in. More cool-guy gear on the way but the basics are down. Staged engagements FTW!

 

 

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Desert deuce ,you even get free tru-spec pants & t-shirt with them. Well pleased as I needed some new pants :)

Edited by heroshark

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Here is something i'm working on, not aiming for anything special. The nice postman is on his way with a leg panel, and a dump pouch. Will be getting a helmet next. And the picture is lying, the vest is really much darker.

Edited by Sgt.Grandalen

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Well, i do understand that some people don't like to see patches, so i'll be removing them for the next pictures. But what do you think otherwise? Any thoughts about what helmet would fit with this kit? I was thinking maybe a tan mich 2000?

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Grandalen, nice-looking kit. One thing I'd do with your patches is swap the IR US flag to the other sleeve, so the flag's canton is facing to your front. I think a MICH 2000 would look good with it.

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Grandalen, nice-looking kit. One thing I'd do with your patches is swap the IR US flag to the other sleeve, so the flag's canton is facing to your front. I think a MICH 2000 would look good with it.

 

My god. I'm a stickler for correct US flags, and I still didn't notice it. Yeah, the US flag is poised in a way which represents it being carried on a staff; if you were running, but viewing it from the flag's right, the star field would be facing forward as the flag blows in the wind. Therefore you need a reversed flag to wear on the right sleeve. Check out the example on my helmet a few posts back on this page.

Edited by cazboab

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I've binned a bunch of posts that were completely off topic: suffice to say there is actually a "correct" way to display rockers and the US flag, if you're bothered about it *politely* suggest the right way, and if you're not bothered about it you don't need to post to say that.

 

Also the next person to use the words "walt" or "douche" in relation to another forum member wont be able to post for a while, 'kay?

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