Magsz Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I took my barrel apart last night and interestingly enough, instead of being on the bottom, the wiring cutout to front wire the gun is on the RIGHT HAND SIDE of the barrel. Very interesting. One thing that worries me is that holy mother of god is that channel small. Its...really small. Anakchan, you've installed metal bushings right? Are the TM holes 6.0mm or 6.1 like some of the out of spec clone gearboxes? I know, i know, stupid question, i would assume 6.0 since its a marui but it IS a new design so who knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I took my barrel apart last night and interestingly enough, instead of being on the bottom, the wiring cutout to front wire the gun is on the RIGHT HAND SIDE of the barrel. Very interesting. One thing that worries me is that holy mother of god is that channel small. Its...really small. Anakchan, you've installed metal bushings right? Are the TM holes 6.0mm or 6.1 like some of the out of spec clone gearboxes? I know, i know, stupid question, i would assume 6.0 since its a marui but it IS a new design so who knows. You can squeeze in about 4 wires through that side cut - no more. So For the SW-Long (2xwires for trigger, 2xwires for motor) that's just right. I still have problems squeezing in the FET into the front with the DD AR-15, so think I'm going to file a groove in the outer barrel to make some space. Yes 6mm bearings fit in fine (think I'm using Systema bearings). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 You can squeeze in about 4 wires through that side cut - no more. So For the SW-Long (2xwires for trigger, 2xwires for motor) that's just right. I still have problems squeezing in the FET into the front with the DD AR-15, so think I'm going to file a groove in the outer barrel to make some space. Yes 6mm bearings fit in fine (think I'm using Systema bearings). 6mm bearings? Why that choice my friend? Ive never been a fan of 6mm bearings in any application and i find that to be particularly scary in a system that seems to have more load on it than a conventional AEG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I dropped a G&P RAS2 Long on it, and the upper part of that fits great. The lower rail had to be retained from the SOPMOD RIS because the barrel nut does not have a slot for the RAS2 lower RIS clamp to slip into. (The upper does.) Not ideal, but no big deal, as the front handguard cap and delta ring holds the lower TM RIS half well with just a very minor bit of play, and it doesn't look wrong. I decided I didn't like that minor bit of play.....I have a KAC RASII on my real-steel and know how solid it should be. Out came the Dremel, and now there is a slot in the faux barrel nut for the G&P RASII lower clamp to engage. The front end is extremely solid. Trilled with the build on this gun in that regard. Still haven't updated to a tightbore however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 6mm bearings? Why that choice my friend? Ive never been a fan of 6mm bearings in any application and i find that to be particularly scary in a system that seems to have more load on it than a conventional AEG. I had lotsa spares and didn't know what to do with them . Couldn't be bothered to go out to buy bushings...hahah! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I had lotsa spares and didn't know what to do with them . Couldn't be bothered to go out to buy bushings...hahah! Rofl, fair enough! Let us know how they hold up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrezzy Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 hey Anak, what is the approx range compared to a regular M4 AEG when using stock spring and tightbore? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 hey Anak, what is the approx range compared to a regular M4 AEG when using stock spring and tightbore? Decent to excellent groupings at 100 feet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluep3ace Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm glad marui has continued development of new systems. They've finally realized that the line between them and "clone" makers was thinning, and needed new innovation to move ahead. This drive will only benefit airsoft now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 This gun is really tempting. It's this or another Tanaka. I was looking at the Type 89 for the 3 round burst, but I like this more. So... what's the bottom line on the HOP? Decent? More than decent? Compared to an M14, what can we expect? Ben. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Not as good as the TM M14 in terms of range, but very, very consistent, i.e. accuracy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Guys, I thought I'd let you know that I'm beginning to hear misc parts fail in the mechbox for the -upgraded- Sopmods. It's not happened to me personally but for 1-2 of my colleagues who have upgraded it (either spring, adding FET, or changing to front wiring, etc.) I've heard of various failures (e.g. cylinder head, mechbox shell, nozzle, etc.). Again, this is for -upgraded- Sopmods, I've not heard of failures for non-upgraded ones. Mine which was upgraded is still ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 How hard are they driving them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 95-97m/s (basically just under 1J). But I'm -guessing- that things like FETs & 7.4V Lipos increases ROF, and the mechbox isn't able to handle it. Afterall this mechbox is pretty much a new design. And as for the nozzle, it's damn long....take a look @ the below pics I took, I reckon a simple BB jam can cause breaks easily :- http://www.tkoverkill.com/showthread.php?t...id=2835#pid2835 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vidi_gonzales Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Mine is going at a little over 1J, using a custom 9.6v pack. It now runs as I want it to. It even holds up in the cold weather here. Im happy! I havent broken my gearbox yet tho. But Im not using lipos or any fet so I guess that is helping me a lil. I guess time will tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 My sopmod has failed unfortunately. Tappet plate snappled in half and the nozzle broke where the tappet meets it on the cylinder head. I was running at stock power levels. Im not sure if this was because of a jam of parts failure but ill tell you right now, with reinforced polycarb parts this wont happen. The stock plastic is just way too brittle. I wonder of Marui did any kind of durability testing on the system. So far my sopmod is the first ive heard of in my extremely limited universe that has broken in stock configuration. The others that i have operating around me seem to be doing just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Huh... I've always found that TMs Tappets were of excellent quality, along with their Nozzles. That is exceptionally strange. Maybe you just got a Lemon. BTW, how is the plastic on the furniture as compared to a regular TM M4? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Magsz, how many rounds through your gun? I've put a few mags through mine, but that is it so far, as I haven't had it out at the field. Same as Vercing with TM tappets....I run those in all my upgraded regular AEGs with no issues, whereas I've busted aftermarket tappets. {shrug} Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Less than 600 rounds.... Yeah, dont ask. Im thinking i got a lemon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hmmmm, a TM lemon? :S Where'd you get it from? Ben. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 TM Lemons do exist although they are extremely rare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighters808 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 TM Lemons do exist although they are extremely rare. agreed, had a few of them myself to fix. so far my sop' has gone through about a bag of Excel .2's and Maruzen .25's in testing and games. so far, so good. also, it's confirmed that Laylax is beginning to make parts for SOPMOD's right now it's going to be piston head, spring guide, nozzle, and a outer barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) any links for me to read on the laylax info ? i can see that have a section on the laylax site for the sopmod now, but no new stuff yet Edited February 28, 2009 by Richard Y Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Yo gunfighters. that is good news. Glad to hear it. Magsz, I've put 850 rounds through mine with no issues, so it sounds like you got the short stick. Sorry, man. On a sidenote, I stuck in an EdGI tightbore (M4-length, 6.01mm) last night with a Shredder hop spacer. Before, it was 277fps/.2g (hop off, of course) and after install it is 297fps/.2g. Nice little bump there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighters808 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) any links for me to read on the laylax info ? i can see that have a section on the laylax site for the sopmod now, but no new stuff yet I saw it in my April issue of ARMS Magazine, it's in their printed ad, but not updated on the Laylax website. oh, and there is also a cylinder head coming too. my scanner is not working right now, so I can't post it up yet. magsz, saw in the back of the magazine a little blurb with cad drawings of tappet plates about the sopmod. trying to get it translated. looks like light at the end of the tunnel so to speak! Edited February 28, 2009 by Gunfighters808 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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