markerz Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Anyone else disapointed by the M4 mags? The steel casing is nice but that's about it. Mine became unreliable with the bolt stop feature so I took em apart for a cleaning. When you look inside it just looks so cheapo-made, build quality of a $0.99 toy. Even after a very thorough cleaning the bolt stop still fails 30% of the time. What a joke. I'm surprised there aren't aftermarket mags for the guns, or replacement parts for the mags. Replacing that little latch with something other than slippery shiny plastic will probably make it more reliable. Edited October 25, 2010 by markerz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfighters808 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 markerz, do any of your team members or players have mags to try out in your gun too? -just trying to narrow the problem from mags or a gun problem with the cut off latch. also, is your gun front wired or back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 My SOCOMs are always having problems with the bolt catch/cut off levers. Nothing to do with the mags though, they push up on the little lever as they should every single time without fail, but often when I put my finger in to the mag well and try to actuate the bolt stop by hand the lever is jammed in place. Try that and see if it's free moving as it should be or has possibly gotten stuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markerz Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) I don't think it's the lever, no problems with activating the bolt release by hand without any mags. However it's possible that the lever got stiffer, stiff enough that the mags aren't strong enough to push it all the time? I don't know. I think it's the mags because I have 6 of them, and I test them out one after another and get very different results. About 2 of my mags work pretty much 90% of the time. The rest are kinda iffy. Now all the mags do push up their little lever when empty, every single time. But there is a difference, the good mags have good tension and very little give on the lever when it's empty. The bad mags have a bit of give on the lever. It's very subtle , but basically if you just touch the lever, the good mags will take pressure to go down at all, but the bad ones go down around 1/5 of the way even without any pressure. They still stay 4/5 of the way up well, but that doesn't seem to be enough. I'm guessing this is caused by spring tension or poor interaction between the little plastic pieces inside the mag. Edited October 25, 2010 by markerz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elvis Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 You'll have to do some maintenance on the magazines. Because the are double staked they will not work with the least amount of sand and/or dirt. Even with the wrong kind of bb's they tend to misfeed or not feed at all. If you keep them clean and use the right bb's the bolt stop will work. I've numbered my magazines and when they don't feed or the boltstop fails during a game, I know which magazine will need some cleaning. Even when I come home, I check every magazine if the bb's come out fast enough. If not --> open it up and clean it too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 looks like these mags have some issues, got some in my hicap too, nothing that taking out and in again wouldnt solve, but if reports keep coming... i think I will keep using my hicap instead of investing in TM lowcaps... =S BTW, I though they were single stacked and not double stacked... =S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elanaiba Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 They are single stacked... why use highcaps when you buy a "realism oriented replica" ?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) They are single stacked... why use highcaps when you buy a "realism oriented replica" ?!? Yes, you are right, but when I bought it some months ago I couldnt afford or justify spending 25€ per mag, so I have to use a hicap in order to make this gun "skirmishable" until cheaper lowcaps are released and hope for they are magpul clones EDITED for comprenhension sake Edited October 26, 2010 by Isamu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enigma83 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 stock marui hop bucking rocks! Thanks! In this case I will keep the original one! Anyway do you have some sugggestion to improve accuracy or fps without touch the gearbox? what about a pdi's 6.05 precision barrel? I've heard that it could be the right compromise to improve a little bit both accuracy then fps, anyone tried? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Anyone felt any performance upgrade when swapping the motor? Im thinking about a G&P160 Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I used a Systema Magnum. However my Sopmod's also got Extreme Fire's AB-Long FET, etc. so overall trigger response is great. Can't really say it's the motor alone, but the motor & the FET combined. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Well, motor is a start, dont know if Im skilled enough to fit a fet into a socom... maybe I will leave the fet for the full stock DMR I got in mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 If I told you that after FETting it was amazing, would it change your mind ;-)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Of course it would, but I swould still be as unskilled as a brick and man, I love this gun too much to lose it before I have a second one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singuy Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Do you guys recommend getting the custom eac build from ehobby airsoft with the magic box already installed (380fps?) or keeping the gun stock and just add a tbb.? I hear tms last forever if you don't touch the gear box, I don't want anything to break after 10k rounds. Also is installing a tbb easy in the sopmod? I don't want to strip any wires.(very noob with airsoft) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Putting a tightbore is an ok job even with the SOCOM, piece of ###### with the SOPMOD. As for eHobby's cutom work, well, personally I wouldn't buy it as I've never in my airsofting career seen any review of their custom work. Given the, 'sensitivity' as it were of the GB in these guns, the timing complications added with the recoil weight, the fact the shell and any other stock parts left are only designed to handle 280 etc. That and I doubt they'll have extensively tested any of these custom guns, the'll have shoved all the parts in there and put it up for sale, with no real idea if it'll be reliable or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KDawg Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thanks! In this case I will keep the original one! Anyway do you have some sugggestion to improve accuracy or fps without touch the gearbox? what about a pdi's 6.05 precision barrel? I've heard that it could be the right compromise to improve a little bit both accuracy then fps, anyone tried? most ppl suggest installing a preci barrel and a lot of ppl also agree that fireflys hop up bucking and nub are a great upgrade. I have both the bucking and nub as well as a prometheus 6.03 precision inner barrel and this works great in my sopmod! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thanks! In this case I will keep the original one! Anyway do you have some sugggestion to improve accuracy or fps without touch the gearbox? what about a pdi's 6.05 precision barrel? I've heard that it could be the right compromise to improve a little bit both accuracy then fps, anyone tried? Stick with the stock hop bucking and stop inner barrel. They work great. If you're playing outdoors, the wind and the weight of BBs have more say in accuracy than how tight your inner barrel is (specially of its only .03mm or a hair of a difference). Run the gun as is. With a Firefly (Hard) hop bucking, I lost 5-9 FPS. Sticking the TM hop bucking back in got me the original FPS reading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wargasm Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Any news on the recoil weights Rich? I WANT MORE RECOIL, GNNNAAARRR! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Systema Magnum Motor 7.4v 2100mah 25C Hyperion Lipo Battery KWA M4 CQB stock spring Gun went from shooting up to 16 rounds per second with the EG1000 motor to a little over 19 rounds per second. Edited October 31, 2010 by sacairsoftsn00py Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markerz Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Systema Magnum Motor 7.4v 2100mah 25C Hyperion Lipo Battery KWA M4 CQB stock spring Gun went from shooting up to 16 rounds per second with the EG1000 motor to a little over 19 rounds per second. is that a good idea? I was using 15C Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I use 20C and I feel like im pushing the limits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 sadly Ive had to put my plans to buy a SOPMOD on hold for the next coupleof months, had the money ready and was good to go but decided id better buy the other half a birthday present so im back to square one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Meh! christmas is around the corner, get it then as a self gift Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 hehe im hoping if i drop enough hints she may get it for me lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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