Honzo Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 the wait will be well worth it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Cheers mate. My Socom is in customs It's like Xmas is coming early Bet you're excited bro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Yeah looking forward to getting it. Will be a hard choice between it and my KJW Gbbr every time I play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Yeah looking forward to getting it. Will be a hard choice between it and my KJW Gbbr every time I play. Ahhhh the beauty of choice...... What does your KJW kick out? The Socom out of the box is about 280fps with hop on I believe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 i got mine from echigoya, socom clocked in at 310. Perfect fps for me. My sopmod was 300 on the dot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Ahhhh the beauty of choice...... What does your KJW kick out? The Socom out of the box is about 280fps with hop on I believe. It's been taken down to 330 on propane and has the latest hop mods. It and the socom should be perfect as I marshal and play at a CQB site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Anyone here ever mod the mag internal into a real steel pmag? I know echigoya did it, I emailed PTS again to see if they're still planning to make them, if they don't respond soon I think that'll be my new project for this gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Vader Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Anyone here ever mod the mag internal into a real steel pmag? I know echigoya did it, I emailed PTS again to see if they're still planning to make them, if they don't respond soon I think that'll be my new project for this gun. I did that with a G-Mag, which is a clone by Oberland Arms (P-Mags aren't that easy to get in Europe). http://www.oberlandarms.de/index.php?category=GMag&id=1&page=details Sadly I lost it, but the conversion did work. I had to dremel quite alot of material of from the internal Marui mag part as well as from the inside of the G-Mag. The G-Mags/P-Mags are thinner at the front than usual mags, so the TM mag insert won't fit without dremeling. In fact I had to dremel so much that the walls of the BB canal got really thin. And after all that dremeling the mag insert still was fitting very tight inside the G-Mag, but it had to anyway, as without the bottom screw the insert was only held in place by friction. But it worked very well that way. I had some problems with the magazine lever not engaging the bolt stop mechanism properly and I never sortet that out completely (before loosing the mag) but I'm pretty sure that this would not be a problem if you do it a little better than me (It was my first try after all), maybe I just positioned the mag insert to low inside the shell. Anyway the magazine did fit perfectly into the magwell of the Sopmod (after dremeling the back part some more) and I liked the vastly reduced weight. But it's really timeconsuming doing all that dremeling and it's rather expensive as well, considering that you have to buy a complete Sopmod mag and a P-Mag. But if you don't mind the time and money, go for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Hmmm...I think I'll just wait for Magpul PTS to respond to my email if it requires modification of the Marui internal. I really hope they do decide to make one (as they stated they were looking at possibly releasing them before the end of this year), especially if they make it hold more bb's (maybe 120). Though if anything I'll probably purchase a single pMag and if worst comes to worst and I mess up the Marui internal, I'll just buy a new internal from Echigoya and put it back into the metal body. Thanks for the response Vader Edited September 25, 2011 by akiraspeedstar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 for me the hard part is getting the real steeel so to speak pmags. If there was a ready cheap source i could do it but alas there isnt, then of course the cost again buying to mags and converting them, its why they cost so much to buy from echiy its really not an option at the moment unless like you say magpull get motivated and it would have to have the bolt lock system of course... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banshee_Will Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yep in the UK pmags are about £25 each......... I'm not that desperate to have them. But if PTS did release just a shell that would make the whole process easier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interficium Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 for me the hard part is getting the real steeel so to speak pmags. If there was a ready cheap source i could do it but alas there isnt, then of course the cost again buying to mags and converting them, its why they cost so much to buy from echiy its really not an option at the moment unless like you say magpull get motivated and it would have to have the bolt lock system of course... There may be more motivation for PMAGs once KWAs EBB comes out. AFAIK allizard said somewhere that TM ebb mags would be compatible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elanaiba Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 He DID ?! That would be awesome. But... I doubt it... from the pics it looks like they're using standard size AEG mags, whereas Sopmod style mags need more space above the mag catch, like real steel mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 yeah pretty sure it has to be reel steel becuase they are bigger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Folks, will a prommy piston head and prommy cylinder head only work with a prommy cylinder or can I use the stock marui cylinder just as effectively? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) "the mag for the Tokyo marui is still pending on list, we will have an official announcement once its ready for launch." Good news that its still planned, bad news that they no longer mention this year (I asked if it was still going to be this year in the original email). Now I'm reconsidering on doing the real steel pmag conversion. Though, I already have 5 magazines, at most I could probably sell them for $15 each if i'm lucky, maybe less once the pmag come out. Then the pmag from PTS will probably cost $30, so really it'd cost me the same to modify the pmags compared to buying the PTS version. Ah Hell I got one real steel on the way, I'll see how hard it is to modify. Edited September 28, 2011 by akiraspeedstar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banshee_Will Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 snip Keep us informed of how your conversion goes........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Folks, will a prommy piston head and prommy cylinder head only work with a prommy cylinder or can I use the stock marui cylinder just as effectively? They work with the stock cylinder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Since my SOCOM is enroute I need to ask some questions about accessories since I plan using this as a prototype for my coming real M4, has anyone used the DYTAC outer barrels, hows the fit/finish, does the gas block come off or is it part of the barrel, as I need to fit a standard FSB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elanaiba Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 What barrel length do you need? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Since my SOCOM is enroute I need to ask some questions about accessories since I plan using this as a prototype for my coming real M4, has anyone used the DYTAC outer barrels, hows the fit/finish, does the gas block come off or is it part of the barrel, as I need to fit a standard FSB. Gas block comes off, but there's no cut-outs for the roll pins you'd need to fit an A-frame. That, and the portion of the barrel that is the correct diameter for gas blocks is shorter than usual, it's only the length of the supplied VLTOR low-pro. Finish: Meh, standard airsoft paint. It suffices but it's nothing that great. Fit: Mine did work fine, but the portion that slots in to the upper was a bit wider than it should have been, it didn't quite slot in to place 100% correctly. Very close, and like I say it works fine, but it could have been produced to a higher standard.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 16" is my planned length but I need to drop a standard FSB on it, was looking for stainless but I can always refinish a black barrel. My total plan is: 16" Barrel with YHM Phantom Comp FDE Midlength MOE FDE MOE Grip FDE MOE Stock IWC SMC with 4sevens light Magpul ASAP Plate Prommy Internals AWS New Version 2 FET PDI W-Bucking Haven't decided on an inner barrel brand and length E6 350fps spring Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 For the WE GBB / PTW Magpul Pts sling mount, how much dremiling is required? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 16" is my planned length but I need to drop a standard FSB on it, was looking for stainless but I can always refinish a black barrel. Only 16" barrel seems to be the Dytac: http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=category&item=DY-ACC-OB416FB&search=special&rs=Outer%20Barrel%20for%20AEG&catid=14&cat=87 It definitely won't have the horizontal holes for your standard issue front sight/gas block, though I'd imagine if you've got the tools and skills it can be done. Whether the gas system is the correct length for the mid-length MOEs, also no idea sadly. Tried the PDI W-Hold in my 12" SOCOM, but unfortunately I've only been able to field it once and on that occasion it was shooting all over the shop, mostly off to the right. I think (from what I've read of others' experiences) it needs a lot of bedding in due to the system it uses, more so than any other standard bucking. For the WE GBB / PTW Magpul Pts sling mount, how much dremiling is required? Only 1-2mm from the central hole and a bit off the supporting spigots, it's all the file/test/file/test which takes the time. You'll need to take a good hour or so if you want a clean, flush fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I can always adapt it, though I may just drill and mid-length the standard barrel, also since there are issues with it coming loose is it advisable to stake the receiver extension nut to the receiver end-plate or is the metal of it too soft? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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