The Chef Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Hola chaps... been a while. Well, now that the crappy weather is starting to return, I've seen fit to get the SOCOM out of it's bag once again and put the VSR away (or at least down, whilst it's windy). I've upgraded to a 7.4v LiPo and it's a lovely addition battery wise. I've got a couple of LiPo's, one being a tad bigger than the other. I'm getting problems with one of them being a little too tight. It fits, but the delta ring spring is so weak, it pops open spewing the battery out. Does anyone know if the MOE foregrip is any bigger internally? It only needs to be a smidge bigger. And as per usual, I'm getting my usual magazine feeding issues. Nearly all of my mags stick at some point. Highly annoying in an otherwise flawless rifle. The feeding issue also causes the feed spring not to push up the mag stop on some of them too. Now, before anyone says..... They are cleaned to within an inch of their life and they are always emptied, so the springs aren't compressed and the insides are not dirty. Any ideas? I'm convinced the internal design of the spring follower is a bit pants and just hanging up on its travel. Cheers all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I think the MOE is the same internally, best fix is a G&P delta ring. my socom is rock solid now and its a battle to get the handgaurd off. Which is prefferable to them falling off if you looked at the delta ring wrongly. Feeding issues, BB's? What brand do you use? Folk seem to think they can be a factor, I only use blasters and have had no issues so can't comment from expernce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Chef Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Hmmm... pity about the MOE foregrip. Had some hopes about that. I have to say, my current best fix is a decent length of Gaffa tape! Might take a poke at that G&P ring. BB's.. varies, blasters, devils (I know same brand), Pro-Ball, Bio's, Zero1's own brand, and a few others. 0.2's and 0.25's. All seem to be the same. What I have just done (in the few minutes before dinner), is to take out the little two-ball spacer that sits on top of the BB follower. And whilst this does leave 1 BB in the mag when empty, it has certainly improved the feeding and has cured the somewhat flaky stopping on empty issue. It still has the occasional misfeed on semi, but for the most part it seems to be holding up. On this mag at least! This problem isn't just unique to me, it also happens to another chap at my site with his M4. Very strange. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I had the same problem when I moved away from using Excel - terrible feed issues not improved by stripping, cleaning, etc. As soon as I switched back, all the problems went away. YMMV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) with regards the mags, change ammo. Theres a reason mags work fine for most and not for some. Its not like you magically got 10 duff mags. It has to be either dirty mags or incompatible bbs. The blasters should work fine. The handguard if its the socom, remove the lower hand guard and there should be plastic fins which point upwards dremel them off giving you a lot more room in the handguard. if theres not battery being squeezed in the only just then the delta ring speing wont have to work so hard. Edited November 20, 2011 by Richard Y Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Richard are Eagle 6 going to stock the Pommy Spring Guide? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Ive got lots, have i not listed it ? man down.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Im toying with the idea of selling my socom now.... nothing wrong with it i just have this urge to buy a systema..... i know i know but I used one at the weekend and fell in love Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 White Wabbit, if you do, be sure to post a comparison between the 2... and try not to be biased Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 will do mate, from the very short time I used one at the weekend I can say the systema felt more balanced in my hands, shooting it was a completely different experience than the socom much like the way shooting the socom is to a standard AEG if that makes sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Ive got lots, have i not listed it ? man down.... Yeasterday I searched spring guide and nothing, I'll try again. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrezzy Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Hola chaps... been a while. Well, now that the crappy weather is starting to return, I've seen fit to get the SOCOM out of it's bag once again and put the VSR away (or at least down, whilst it's windy). I've upgraded to a 7.4v LiPo and it's a lovely addition battery wise. I've got a couple of LiPo's, one being a tad bigger than the other. I'm getting problems with one of them being a little too tight. It fits, but the delta ring spring is so weak, it pops open spewing the battery out. Does anyone know if the MOE foregrip is any bigger internally? It only needs to be a smidge bigger. And as per usual, I'm getting my usual magazine feeding issues. Nearly all of my mags stick at some point. Highly annoying in an otherwise flawless rifle. The feeding issue also causes the feed spring not to push up the mag stop on some of them too. Now, before anyone says..... They are cleaned to within an inch of their life and they are always emptied, so the springs aren't compressed and the insides are not dirty. Any ideas? I'm convinced the internal design of the spring follower is a bit pants and just hanging up on its travel. Cheers all. I add a similar issue, but a simple fixed solved it. Put some paper spacers between the mag and the mag plate...that will push the internal mag up higher so i feeds better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Im toying with the idea of selling my socom now.... nothing wrong with it i just have this urge to buy a systema..... i know i know but I used one at the weekend and fell in love Nutter ;-). When it breaks, see if you go back to the SOCOM. Mind you though, at Tokyo Move, the guys did manage to fit in a recoil engine variant into their Systema PTW. It actually felt very nice and responsive especially with their electronic hair trigger. However at USD$3250 it was somewhat beyond my budget ;-) (not to mention I had no idea what the reliability was going to be). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) *fruitcage*, I just lost my bolt catch spring, hopefully a hardware shop has something that will work, I cant seem to find anyone with it for sale. Update: Good thing I keep oem parts on the side, used the oem anti reverse latch spring and it words good. Edited November 22, 2011 by akiraspeedstar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 systemas nice theres no denying it, the feel of it ie external build quality nothing touches it. But yeah they are prone to breaking and need a lot of moneys spending on them. basically about 1300 minium starting price, if your getting it cheaper youll still have to spend on upgrades and mods and be at that price eventually. Unless your willing to go for an old model as starter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Chef Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I add a similar issue, but a simple fixed solved it. Put some paper spacers between the mag and the mag plate...that will push the internal mag up higher so i feeds better. Cheers buddy, but it's not the feed spring as you describe. I know this because if I take the mag out and pull the little catch back, none of the Beebs come spewing out. Give it a solid whack and it'll unjam and spit them all over the room. I'm sure it's something inside the feed-track. I'll give the removed top follower trick a bit of a run through this weekend and see how it fares. White.... Good luck with that. Whilst yes they are a bit more solid, they are also fraught with more danger. Vic had one and the motor went (apparently a common issue when running the red cylinder), and that cost an arm and a leg to get fixed. The mags are mad expensive too. So yeah, you'll be seeing the best part of a grand and a half for gun and mags. I'd rather have 3 Marui recoil M4's for that price, and pimp one out with a stack of gucci parts for that price. But that's just me. Richard.... I've already whipped out those ribs. I've been an M4 owner (not just the recoil one) for many years, so know a few tricks. Was just wondering if the MOE grip was any larger on the inside. Only needs to be a mm or two, bigger in the vertical downwards. I may get a bit medieval with the dremel if all else fails. I don't have much room in there with the mosfet, connectors and all the gubbins. We're all good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White_Rabbit Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Yeah I know mate but the urge has become to hard to resist..... im trying to fight it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Resistance is futile lol I had the same urge but am sticking to my Marui's. But you never know what lies around the corner lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Just gotta consider, you could buy a new socom, install prometheus internals, external accessories, and a hard recoil kit and probably still spend less then just a PTW alone O_o Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Yup, I'm happy with the SOCOM's performance, I don't find that PTWs are better, but I'm holding out for the eventual release of the Real Sword AR-15 Line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Y Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 AWS are releasing the v3 fet soon, then nothing stopping the new v2 fet hehehehe yay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Megalomaniac Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Good news then, as that is a BIG do want, to give PTW users yet another reason to think twice. Another rail question has anyone had any luck fitting a King Arms CASV Rail to a SOCOM? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 AWS are releasing the v3 fet soon, then nothing stopping the new v2 fet hehehehe yay Any ETA? The last time I emailed them, they said that it's way too early to even give an estimated date. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zaimon Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Check this out! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=223118407759057&set=a.114204368650462.15453.114192418651657&type=1&theater The CNC receiver is now available in Echigoya , anakchan is in the first row. lucky guy, i envy him Edited November 23, 2011 by zaimon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Hmmm...still doesn't seem to be available available just yet, so how much is it going to cost? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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