Hatchet Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Personally, if you're opening the box up to install the Spectre, then I'd drop some hornbill gears in there (or Prometheus, if you're feeling rich) to pre-empt the stock ones breaking and possibly an E6 M100 spring or similar. Nothing else *needs* doing. Original barrel/hop are good as is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WillSK Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Personally, if you're opening the box up to install the Spectre, then I'd drop some hornbill gears in there (or Prometheus, if you're feeling rich) to pre-empt the stock ones breaking and possibly an E6 M100 spring or similar. Nothing else *needs* doing. Original barrel/hop are good as is. Yeah this is my thinking. I worry though. If I change the gears and spring, is everything else still compatible? i.e won't I then need new bushings, cylinders/pistons and so on as a result of the extra strain from the new spring and higher torque gears Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I don't think you need to worry. I mean, new spring won't be putting that much extra strain on. No need for high torque gears - the spring doesn't require them and you don't need them for the response because you'll have the Spectre. Piston/piston head would depend on how efficiently you take the existing spring out, since it's kind of a one piece with the piston. I ripped mine out from the back so it wasn't strictly necessary but you may find it easier just to get new ones and not bother with any of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arne71 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The BTC Spectre fet has arrived. That was pretty quick. Now I`ll just have to find a tech with a little spare time on his hands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zereck Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 I got mine on wednesday but don't have the time to install it. Too much work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
point_7 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) ok mine just fried , the switch for the empty mag detection fried up . i dont know what went wrong Edited August 20, 2014 by point_7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Ouch. Maybe some sort of short? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
point7 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 i dont know, it all seems right instald with no bad things as far as i can see in the gearbox. no bad wires just nothing , it fired a my mag completly empty but it did not detect the mag was empty and then i smeld somthing burned so the fet burnd up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 After some initial problems I managed mine to work.. the small trigger switch was some kind of 'stuck' within the housing and caused a 'fire-loop' (trigger was always pressed) It was not as easy to install as I thought and the instructions are not very clear in some way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) ok mine just fried , the switch for the empty mag detection fried up . i dont know what went wrong http://i60.tinypic.com/2jb14yp.jpg If you haven't already, contact BTC directly via their website for warranty assistance. http://www.btcairsoft.com/contact Personally, if you're opening the box up to install the Spectre, then I'd drop some hornbill gears in there (or Prometheus, if you're feeling rich) to pre-empt the stock ones breaking and possibly an E6 M100 spring or similar. Nothing else *needs* doing. Original barrel/hop are good as is.My recommendation for "base level" upgrades for a TM Recoil M4 are; SHS Gears Prometheus sintered bushings Angle of Engagement correction (preferably sorbothane) A fast High-Torque Motor (With Neodymium magnets) Those alone will deliver a substantial upgrade in performance and reliability. when combined with a SPECTRE, the gun's basically done until/unless you strip the piston. Edited September 6, 2014 by Aod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bettyblue84 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Stupid question, what size motor shaft do I need for these? (long, short) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCheeseright Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Long. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad-Larkin Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hey chaps, I've just dropped the spectre into mine and love it. Safe doesn't seem to be working but not sure I can be bothered to open it up again to look. Anyways, I'm running an eagle6 m90 with various other upgrades and a longer barrel, after a full clean and regrease it's now shooting 360. I need to drop 10-15 off and wasn't sure how much of the spring I need to clip. Or if there is an easier way to drop the fps. Anyone done the same? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 If you've fitted a tightbore barrel, you could replace it with the stock 6.08. That'd probably drop it down 10-15fps. Or as you say, clip the spring. Probably start with quarter of a coil and go from there. You can always take more off, but you can't put any back... Barrel easier, spring cheaper - take your pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad-Larkin Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Cheers ratchet, it has got a tb but am running a longer barrel so don't want to go back to stock as I'll lose that benefit. Quarter coil at a time works for me, is front wired so easy to get to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
point_7 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 MAD larking : safe is not working in my to . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aod Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hey chaps, I've just dropped the spectre into mine and love it. Safe doesn't seem to be working but not sure I can be bothered to open it up again to look. Are you using the stock Plastic selector plate? If so you can rectify the problem by either buying the expensive prometheus metal plate or by building up epoxy (I find Araldite Metal 2k works great for this) on the part of the trigger that gets blocked by the selector plate and shaping the lump so that it prevents the trigger from tripping the microswitch when on safe. I had to do it about a week ago to a TM SCAR-H for Wildecard. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad-Larkin Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 It's not the stock plate, but don't think it's prometheus. Was ages ago i upgraded it, laylax i think perhaps. Well lowering the fps worked, came down to 350 for the game on sat. Mosfet seemed fine (ignoring lack of safety) for chrono, however 10 minutes later handed it to a mate to show off and both semi and full were shooting single shots only. Seemed to have lost programming or something. I hadn't touched the battery between chrono and this. Went back, reprogrammed 3 round burst, all seemed fine. Left the gun all morning as was using my Kriss, took it out in the afternoon, got all the way into game, both semi and full were now only firing in 3 rnd burst. Then it made a horrific grinding noise after which i put it down quick. I haven't had a chance to take it apart yet to see whats wrong, noise it made sounded like the piston had gone, but am running a promy polycarb piston in there and i thought they were tough as nails. So not looking forward to opening her up. I don't want to know what damage i have done lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 You guys may want to contact btc about your issues. If nobody reports to them about it, they wont be able to fix what may cause the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's not the stock plate, but don't think it's prometheus. Was ages ago i upgraded it, laylax i think perhaps. Prometheus is a sub-brand of Laylax, or vice versa, or some other arrangement. They're effectively the same company, at any rate. I use the upgraded plate and a Spectre too, and it doesn't seem to cause issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad-Larkin Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Will do soon as I have an idea of what went wrong snoopy. Chances are it's actually my selector that's broken silver, seem to remember the screw that holds it on not being all that strong anymore, may have twisted the plastic circle bit pushes the selector plate. My biggest worry is that I cocked up somewhere in my rewire job. Changed the spectre to front wired as I couldn't work out how to push all those wires through to the back. Had to cut the wires to add flat connectors so it would go through the ris locking nut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 You can cut down the wiring for the Spectre by combining the two red wires inside the gearbox - have a look here - which reduces the number of wires you're threading out the back to two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad-Larkin Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Ah cheers, that is good to know. My basic electrical knowledge was telling me that connecting close or at the deans end was no different but didn't want to risk anything. Now just got to work out where to connect it that doesn't get in the way of the trigger, or empty mag system, or hop -.- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nutster Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Next gen spectres in at airlab Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad-Larkin Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well lack of semi was due to the bit that connects with the selector plate on the trigger slipping passed and touching the fire button. Trigger i have isn't TM as it broke so guess the specs aren't exactly the same. Popped a shim on the trigger to push it into the gearbox and reduce wiggle room, seems to have worked. Other issues still seem to remain after a full check. Looks like the terrible grinding was the motor spinning on the lowest gear. Probably going to need a new motor soon as the teeth didn't look great. Ok for now though. I posted about the strange loss of programming i'm getting in the spectre review thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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