shinhk Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 It has been 9 pages on this thread, and I'm surprised that no one has done a review on G&P WOC yet. I am more concerning on the reliability on G&P, if it comes out to be a highly durable GBB like the WE (or even better), I'll place my order right the way. After keeping up with the 100+ pages of the WE, sure they may be highly durable, but seems to be far from reliable. G&P bodies seem to have a fitment issue on some of them but other than that a lot of their internal parts are great. That AS bolt carrier group is just awesome too (I have one in my WA). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) After keeping up with the 100+ pages of the WE, sure they may be highly durable, but seems to be far from reliable. G&P bodies seem to have a fitment issue on some of them but other than that a lot of their internal parts are great. That AS bolt carrier group is just awesome too (I have one in my WA). Yeah, it's just those damned magazines though. Are the magazines that come with the G&Ps of G&P manufacture? If so, I patiently await the release of cheaper magazines. I'm also a bit saddened that G&P decided to go with the WA dimensions instead of the real deal/Prime-like, but I guess that is a small point. Any info on the size of the G&P buffer tube? How about the front receiver threads? Edited February 6, 2009 by slu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Are the magazines that come with the G&Ps of G&P manufacture? I'm pretty sure they're WA's. When I bought mine, it was through my HK distributor who got them through G&P which allegedly bought thousands of them in anticipation of this product development. What really needs to be designed for the mags are light weight mags. The current weight of the mags is pretty ridiculous especially compared to WE mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shinhk Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 What really needs to be designed for the mags are light weight mags. The current weight of the mags is pretty ridiculous especially compared to WE mags. agreed...lucky for me i don't play long games so 3 mags are usually enough but having 2 pouched is heavy enough. Hopefully those pro-win mags will be lighter. More than likely whatever parts are out for g&p are the ones that they used in their WOCs. Although the picture with the roller on the hammer seems to be a new addition from g&p that's not available as a replacement part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Yeah, I think the hammer with a roller is a new addition because my G&P hammer that I bought separately didn't have that. As for the mags, I've tried carrying 11 mags into a game before. Never again. So does the G&P WOC series come with the G&P HopUp unit, and does anyone know if it's any good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian™ Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Take a look here: WOC M4 pics D.O.C. Thanks! Already saw those, looking for more detailed pics because a lot of them are sold out on Redwolf! lol They've all gotta be somewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartan452 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Just got mine, couple problems. There is alot of wobble between upper reciever and lower. You can't insert a magazine unless your charge the handle, if you do the gas will spill. Other than those minor issues it is great, very strong blowback! firing video Edited February 8, 2009 by Spartan452 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Thanks for posting, definitely some decent looking recoil there. Looks like it wobbles about as much as my RS Century Arms AR15A2 Can you explain your mag loading problem a little bit more in depth for me? Please keep us updated on your findings! Edited February 8, 2009 by sadman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UrPeaceKeeper Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thanks for posting, definitely some decent looking recoil there. Looks like it wobbles about as much as my RS Century Arms AR15A2 Can you explain your mag loading problem a little bit more in depth for me? Please keep us updated on your findings! From my understanding, if you load a mag in and then charge the charging handle it will vent all the gas on the first shot. Something with the "firing pin's" mech going haywire and getting stuck open. So you have to pull back the bolt before inserting a fresh mag. I'd imagine this is only an issue with teh first mag loaded at a game and not something more serious that happens every reload? Could you make a video of the reciever wobble? I've shot a real AR-15, they are not terribly movement free either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Maybe a band-aid fix on my AR15, but I was wondering if you could fit one of those "accu-wedge" rubber wedges in the receiver to reduce the wobble? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalmar Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 No, the G&P (WA) receiver is shorter than spec and will not accommodate the accu-wedge. I simply crafted a thin metal washer between the rear pin to stop the wobble on my G&P MBK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Wobble on a real ar15 has no affect on anything so i wouldnt really worry about it too much on the airsoft gun. Then again, these GBB's are a bit more complex than the real article so correcting wobble may be beneficial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Wobble on a real ar15 has no affect on anything so i wouldnt really worry about it too much on the airsoft gun. Then again, these GBB's are a bit more complex than the real article so correcting wobble may be beneficial. I wasn't too worried about it, that wouldn't stop me from purchasing one. I think I'll follow Kalmar's lead and rig a custom wedge type object to make it a little less wobbly for aesthetic sakes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 on my service rifle, and this was back in the 80's so we were using Vietnam weapons, you could hold the buttstock, and the front handguard, twist just the slightest bit in opposite directions, and the body pin would fall right out of the rifle... it was still a very accurate rifle. Oddly enough, my G&P WOC doesn't have any wobble, all my other G&P M16 AEG's suffer from a little wobble but this upper and lower appear to be perfectly matched. I guess we'll see how that holds up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 How is your WOC working out for you Guiness, can you give a short review? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 you bet, was planning on it- Just got to get some propane and find an adapter! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 you bet, was planning on it- Just got to get some propane and find an adapter! Thanks, I'm to the point after I hear another review or two and the standard M16A4 comes out, I'm sold on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Is the threading for the barrel nut real steel spec or airsoft spec? And what about the barrel threading, 14mm+? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Is the threading for the barrel nut real steel spec or airsoft spec? And what about the barrel threading, 14mm+? I think it's RS Spec. FH is 14mm+. Did you need a different FH? I can add it to the group order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) I'm going to use parts from my short M4 (which is currently down); the troy rail, front sight, rear sight and flashhider till I figure out the parts I'm going to use on this guy. I'm thinking DD Lite 11 inch or larue 11 inch with a gooseneck, PRI flip ups with magpul furnishings. I think I want to put one of those DNTC comps on the front. Edited February 11, 2009 by ThaFlash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 For those who didn't see, WGC shop just got them in for a little less than Redwolf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) Update: Shot her for the 1st time tonight. In my Garage, in approx 30 degree Colorado winter weather, using propane, so I was expecting a couple things- I was expecting that the cold would noticeably decrease the blowback, and / or that I would suffer cool-down. Two mags on full auto, back to back, no cool down, no sputtering, no misfires, and if that was a 'decreased blowback' well.....then I'm fine with that- because I guess in warm weather....its going to be even better! This system is a grin machine, there is no doubt. Now then, G&P.....Let's get going on the M16A1, the Model 607, and some XM's will ya?? M4's and tricked out rail systems are cool and all, but lets get some diversity going please! Edited February 14, 2009 by Guinness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Great to hear Guinness! I'm totally with you on some VN rifles... really wanting that M16A1 so it can sit next to my other G&P M16A1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sadman Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Can any of the owners check the inner barrel length on their WOCs? On GGI I thought I read something of the inner barrel being a shortened length to keep the fps down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WAAPURR Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Can anyone give a decent review on the accuracy past at least 100ft? After months of talk bout WA Inokatsu G&P and WE noone is giving good descriptions on range and how accurately this gun performs. Most info and inquiries I see are what RS parts and other cosmetics can be slapped on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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