kimkafwan Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I see they only have one model on the site. Do you think they can get hold of the others ? Thanks a bunch @chris: thanks, but ye that price is pretty steep :/ They should sell the other models if you pay before... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PPM05 Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I don't really get what you mean by that Care to explain ? thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimkafwan Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Sorry They'll ask you to pay before they ask mr. g&p the model of your choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 gun shoots as high as 315 fps using duster gas and .20g bbs at around 70 degrees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jumprefusal Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Well I've spent the last few hours researching, reading this entire thread, and beating myself with a frying pan and can't find the answer. I just traded for an M16A4 WOC and haven't the slightest clue which M5 (except for the G&P) will fit. I would like to avoid spending the cash on the entire front end for obvious reasons, I'm hoping the Dboys M5 will fit? Anybody? (crosses fingers) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swannie_2006 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 I'd say anything that does not need its own delta ring would be just fine. It was said previously that all standard front ends (king arms, etc) would fit just fine. recently bought a King Arms CASV-M front end. Still waiting for it to arrive but according to WGC guys it should be good. So I assume all others should be fine too. Except for the JP Rifles front ends. They don't . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jumprefusal Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 I think I may have found my solution with the A&K M5 RAS, it says it only works with guns that use real size delta rings. I will have it all later this week, I'll be sure to post if it works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chevieblazer Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 They should sell the other models if you pay before... They told me (I asked the Belgian half of AS-one) they'd only have and sell the one they have, or more accurately, had Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jumprefusal Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Ok after the long wait for shipping I can confirm that The A&K M5 RAS DOES FIT THE M16A4. It actually fits perfect, I bloodied my knuckles getting the sucker on there. Rock solid and very well built. The rails aren't terribly sharp, the numbers are correctly laser etched, and it has the right gas tube retaining channels and heat shields. Matches the G&P finish very nicely, I can take pictures if anybody is interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) I hope there are some of you using WOCs for months now. Could you share your opinions and experiences with us regarding their reliability? Can a WOC be a reliable airsoft gun like the AEGs? Thanks. Edited October 11, 2009 by emp3ror86 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jin15 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I too am curious to see how the G&P WOC users guns are holding up. It sure seems like a lot of people own them but there hasn't been a lot of activity in this thread so I'm hoping that means they're holding up pretty well. I've really been resisting the urge to get another GBB rifle after the disasters that were my WA M4 and my 1st Gen WE M4, but those darn Magpul Dynamics DVDs are starting to get to me and making me want something with a bit more realism in function than an AEG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 The only issue i've had is a worn bolt carrier after a few thousand rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jumprefusal Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I can't give much for a long term report, but from tearing it apart I can tell you it is very well made. G&P has always had nice externals, and this is no different. I spent 8 years in the Army, and recently a buddy of mine still in fell for my "This fell of a truck the other day and I snagged it" joke (I work on Ft. Bragg). Took me showing him the magazine that it wasn't real. Only complaint I have is the stock barrel, it has quite a bit of bb dribblage. A tighter 6.03 or 6.04 helps quite a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I can't give much for a long term report, but from tearing it apart I can tell you it is very well made. G&P has always had nice externals, and this is no different. I spent 8 years in the Army, and recently a buddy of mine still in fell for my "This fell of a truck the other day and I snagged it" joke (I work on Ft. Bragg). Took me showing him the magazine that it wasn't real. Only complaint I have is the stock barrel, it has quite a bit of bb dribblage. A tighter 6.03 or 6.04 helps quite a bit. its not the barrel....its the nozzle configuration if you do readings, youll find out how to address the issue for under a buck....maybe even for free Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bastel Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 At first, sorry for my bad english. Does anybody compare his g&p with an inokatsu mtw? What is better? pro and cons of g&p? i hope you guys can help me. thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentTank Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 At first, sorry for my bad english. Does anybody compare his g&p with an inokatsu mtw? What is better? pro and cons of g&p? i hope you guys can help me. thanks I loveee my G&P woc wouldent trade it for any inokatsu. Better trades, beautiful finish 400 less. I love it heres some pics of my baby it started out as the TANK and has just grown since more pics to come Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bastel Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Thanks for your answer. I cant see a picture?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentTank Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Thanks for your answer. I cant see a picture?? yup http://s1001.photobucket.com/albums/af131/hammerhead_woc/ theres something to get u salivating Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bastel Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 thx- Nice weapon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 At first, sorry for my bad english. Does anybody compare his g&p with an inokatsu mtw? What is better? pro and cons of g&p? i hope you guys can help me. thanks Pros: Fully upgraded Robust internal(steel internal) Good trademarks(and lots to choose from) compatible with most parts Included mag is excellent. Cheaper than Ino and Prime based WA Cons: Not that cheap cast aluminum receiver is not as strong compare to Ino or Prime receiver is its own spec doesn't like some mag receiver wobble(earlier type) The newer WOC(especially ones with MUR upper receiver), fits great, no wobble and corrects many of the earlier issues. Of course, price point is way higher than AGM, but the only thing you would probably want to change will only be the bolt(if that). Performance/Reliability to cost ratio, WOC is pretty good for a WA system GBBR... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bastel Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 @Racing Maniac. Thanks, very very good. I must decide betwenn the Inokatsu M4 2009 - Inokatsu M4-RATECH 2009 - G&P M4 with RIS and aimpoint. Ist the durability of the Ino better? It would cost ca. 350- 400$ (250-300€) more. what would be your opionion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I can't say for sure, it'll need some work to break a G&P, the bolt is probably the weakest part which is why you might want to switch to RA-Tech item. Does Ino worth the extra, I don't know.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liquidflorian Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 ...I wanted to ask a follow up question; does anyone know of a inexpensive and reliable magazine for the WA patterned GBBR? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jumprefusal Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Read the AGM thread, there is a ton of magazine info there. I have some 5ku mags, work decent enough after I fixed the leaks but their QC sucks. Out of six two won't fit in the reciever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentTank Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Read the AGM thread, there is a ton of magazine info there. I have some 5ku mags, work decent enough after I fixed the leaks but their QC sucks. Out of six two won't fit in the reciever. yeah i have a set of three and they like overfill? so that i have to shoot off a bunch of one rounders to get them to fire right. I just slowly am accumulating only the GHKs as even though they have less rounds seem to have worked excellent!! Word of cation though, ghks require minor filing to fit so that it drops out when mag release is dropped in G&P wocs. so for those talking about the internals difference between G&P and inokatsu: there is virtually NO difference. Friend of mine has one and we both have yet to have any internals malfunction. G&P actually shoots full auto better because of the weaker spring that does not consume as much gas. Ive only seen him get 30 rounds off tops on a full magazine. I get out all mine + another 40. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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