sebin90 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Yes, they don't leak even on CO2, but they have bigger cool-down issue instead to original WA ones. Also they look REAL good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) They didn't fit my magwell without lots of sanding. Also, they don't work together with my original BCG either, I have to push up the magazines for the valve lock to reset... I'll try with the JDT steel one as soon as it arrives. The magazines do indeed hold up great, but the original valve tends to freeze shut... I heard it is a O-ring problem! EDIT: Oh yeah, the bolt lock mechanism broke on one of mine :-/ Edited November 18, 2009 by Schaap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PPM05 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Ye I have heard the magwell has to be sanded down, but a friend of mine said it was easy enough to do. I guess I'll see when they arrive, just hoping they will work properly. Can the O-ring problem be solved in any way ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 don't sand the magwell, the mag itself is easier. Also, they are pretty consistent and feed reliably. No doubt about it, I love my GHK mags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chevieblazer Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 I agree on that, tiny. Only thing is they ain't exactly good for cold weather. All I swapped out in my WOC was the Hopup (30€ PGC HU) and a 6.03 Madbull AEG barrel. more consistent and precise than most my AEGs Oh, and I ditched the steel barrel for an aluminum one. Less you carry, more you can run Winter spring is, well, useless IMO. The problem with cold temeratures is not so much the gun as the mags (GHKs and WAs). Below 10°C, they work worse and worse with every refill, and eventually the strike valve will just jam and bleed off all gas with the first hammer strike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elvis Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Does anyone know where I can get the G&P/Bomber m653? I sold my WOC m4a1 as soon as I saw the picture of the 653 on the G&P website... But I still can't find a shop who sells them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmarre Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Boomarms carries the A1 GBBRs. (XM177, M733, M16A1, M16'VN') If they only weren't so frikkin' expensive :| Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elvis Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Boomarms carries the A1 GBBRs. (XM177, M733, M16A1, M16'VN') If they only weren't so frikkin' expensive :| As said, I'm looking for the Model 653 in GBB. I don't care where I can find other models... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 WGC has it, but it is sold out... You might want to contact them. You might want to try this one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentTank Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 WGC has it, but it is sold out... You might want to contact them. You might want to try this one what? I just checked the wgc shop they have a ton in stock!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shinhk Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/produc...l&rs=bomber I wouldn't call "less than 5" a ton... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentTank Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/produc...l&rs=bomber I wouldn't call "less than 5" a ton... still he told the guy there were none! Haha hopefully he grabs one up!! Anything more than zero is better than zero unless you are counting injuries! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shinhk Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 True...and wgc has been known to give a quote...get payment...AND THEN say that it's backordered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PPM05 Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Indeed. I payed for my GHK mags. when they were apparently in stock and then told me they will be available in a week or so ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Whoops, indeed it is, it was out of stock on their old site... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elvis Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Thanks guys! I don't know how I could have missed this on WGC... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jesTer Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Can I just confirm that the only difference (besides cosmetic) between the SR16 URX and the Defender is that the upper receiver on the latter doesn't rattle? Internally they are the same correct? Am looking to get either one, can't make up my mind yet... Also, I've read that G&P includes reinforced mags that can take green gas. They don't seem to sell these things individually, how do I get my hands on one? The Bomber brand? Sorry if this has been asked before... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 My understanding is that the rattling was fixed in later batches. My Defender is one of the originals, and it rattled but like we stated earlier in this thread; it's fixed with a simple o-ring. And yes, my magazine will take green gas with no problem. Bomber's leak in green. But G&P o-rings will fix that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvp69 Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 my defender out of the box shot straight as,hop issues? Gamed with it on saturday the 21st, 21 ingagements,21 kills,100 rounds using the stock red dot all within 20m (i put my AGM bolt in and so so far all good,though im only up to 150 rounds atm).I have three WE and none of them could shoot straight out of the box Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Gamed with the G&P M4 again in CQB...holy ###### its so pointable. Anyways, I ordered the 5Ku charging handle from Ehobby so I'll let you guys know how it works Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentTank Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Most of the bodys on gas replicas do wobble(that I have seen), G&P and RA tech have out pins that you tighten with a hex key and that solves the problem straight away. can be found here: http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/...il?prodID=26948 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvp69 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Most of the bodys on gas replicas do wobble(that I have seen), G&P and RA tech have out pins that you tighten with a hex key and that solves the problem straight away. can be found here: http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/...il?prodID=26948 out of stock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jesTer Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) OK... next Noob question... really wanna make sure before I plonk down such a big wad of cash on a toy (which I already have on the WE which is nice but very inconsistent accuracy-wise). What's the difference with WOC branded G&Ps and the Bomber branded ones? I've tried googling but I didn't really find an answer to this. Are the differences just cosmetic? Edited November 23, 2009 by jesTer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I believe its the receiver, Bomber uses the Prime Receivers, G&P is cast and like their AEG receivers can be potentially as brittle as wafers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I hope there are some of you using WOCs for months now. Could you share your opinions and experiences with us regarding their reliability? Can a WOC be a reliable airsoft gun like the AEGs? Thanks. From what I encounter most of the time yes it can, if you use good bb which wont chop. Bad bb chop will ruin your hop up and nozzle. I would suggest Bomber series over WOC since its CNC 6064 aluminium instead of pot metal aluminium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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