Jonny Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Inokatsu M4 CQB-R DX Version Preliminary Review Shown with ELCAN Clone, G&P KAC Vertical Grip and G&P Real Size PEQ. January 30th, 2009 Common Questions about Inokatsu M4 Series Q: What is the body made of? A: Forged aluminum (not steel as originally rumored) Q: What parts are steel? A: Front site, barrel, flash hider, stock sling loop, trigger, bolt catch, bolt carrier, dust cover, body pins, selector, hammer, barrel lock nut and plate. Bolt is made of aluminum but the carrier is cnc steel. Stock tube and KAC MK18 RAS, trigger guard and buffer are made of aluminum. Q: Does it take WE mags? A: No it does not. It only takes WA Regular or S-Type 50 Round magazines at this time. CO2 Short magazines are currently in production by Inokatsu with an unknown production/delivery date. Q: What powers the gun? A: Green Gas (Propane – 100 PSI @ 21C), Red Gas (HFC 22 – 121 PSI @ 21C), and ready for CO2 (Up to 837 PSI @ 21C). Duster gas is unable to cycle the gun in it’s stock state due to the heavy upgrades. Q: Can you use AEG barrels? A: Uknown compatibility at this time but Prime has released a WA compatible hop up assembly that allows for AEG barrels. Q: Real Steel Parts? A: Rumored to take real delta ring and ras/handguards, real steel stock (unknown if real buffer tube will work). Real steel grip possible, trigger guard may need slight modification to use real steel. Magazine catch also rumored to be replaceable with real version. Q: Performance? A: Magazines are extremely rare and hard to come by now due to G&P releasing their WOC series M4 based of WA. No independent performance results available from me at this time until I can get my hands on a magazine. Alleged performance of 400 FPS+, backed up by user accounts and videos on youtube. Results will be posted when available. Q: Where to buy and How Much? A: If in Canada, contact your local retailer for details. Expect approx $1800.00 price range. Outside Canada there are several major local or overseas retailers such as RedWolf that may stock the gun. Pros: - Cybergun licensed Colt trademarks, stamped into receiver - Forged receiver and stamped trademark process like real M4 - Strips and disassembles like real M4 - High quality components and finishing. - Highly upgraded out of box with many steel components capable of taking CO2 Cons: - Top rail slightly oversized and may require you to modify your optics or a BUIS properly. - Top of receiver has slight wobble - Does not include rear site or magazine - Appears to use real steel muzzle thread which prevents attachment of your own attachments - Shoots way to hard out of box alleged 400+ FPS and may achieve up to 475+ or higher pressure gases (CO2) Pictures Some pictures omitted due to forum max picture limit Navigate to http://www.mrjon.org/airsoft/JAN2009 to see all the pictures in full! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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The Crunchy Bunny Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Nice review, and as usual, awesome pics. If this wasn't so damn pricy, I'd buy the M16 length version and make a SPR MOD0 out of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 What the hell is with that huge *albatross* mould line going across the front of the magwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) What the hell is with that huge *albatross* mould line going across the front of the magwell. Yeah, I noticed that too.... Edited February 5, 2009 by slu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Inokatsu advertises this to be a forged body, which is a compressive force process. A block of aluminum in this case is placed between to moulds and compressed quickly at a great pressure to form the basical shape of the body, it's possible that the seamline is due to the 'spill' of the aluminum between the 2 moulds. The insides and holes are then machined as evidenced by the tooling marks inside the magwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) Inokatsu advertises this to be a forged body, which is a compressive force process. A block of aluminum in this case is placed between to moulds and compressed quickly at a great pressure to form the basical shape of the body, it's possible that the seamline is due to the 'spill' of the aluminum between the 2 moulds. The insides and holes are then machined as evidenced by the tooling marks inside the magwell. Johnny, well aware bud, here's the problem tho... Machining the flash off usually involves getting rid of that seam right there. Bad form (no pun intended) on Inokatus part, thats just freaking lazy. Also, KAC moved to Titusville like...three years ago. Get with the times Inokatsu. If you're going to rip off products at least get it right. Edited February 5, 2009 by Magsz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) Inokatsu advertises this to be a forged body, which is a compressive force process. A block of aluminum in this case is placed between to moulds and compressed quickly at a great pressure to form the basical shape of the body, it's possible that the seamline is due to the 'spill' of the aluminum between the 2 moulds. The insides and holes are then machined as evidenced by the tooling marks inside the magwell. The final machining does a little more than just put the holes on. To forgo smoothing out the front of the magwell when machining the forging is a pretty big oversight, particularly considering 1.) the aim of the Inok to emulate the real deal (I've never seen a real lower with a seam like that) and 2.) the pricepoint of the whole system. The top rail oversize also disappoints me a little: they could've easily saved effort buy buying completed real uppers and modifying them if they even need modification. Regardless, thanks for your quick overview and the impressive photos. Edited February 5, 2009 by slu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 A quick update, now with FPS results. Pictured With: G&P AN/PAQ-4C, Huang EoTech 551, Huang SureFire M962 LED, DBoys Arms Flipup, Systema PTW Max LMT stock, G&P Large AR Pistol Grip, MadBull GemTech HALO, KA TangoDown stowaway vertial grip. Current Internal Upgrades: RA-Tech hopup, G&P Hard Recoil Buffer Shoots: First Shot 508.1 FPS, 475+ FPS Avg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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