Pkekyo-Nor Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Wraith18A: Thanks, I was going for fuzzy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carter Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I would love to see pictures of the loadout that goes with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TB-Stalker Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I would love to see pictures of the loadout that goes with  Was that directed at me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wraith18A Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I think it was for Pkeko-Nor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doc_SAS Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I think it was for Pkeko-Nor. Â Let's get both! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lambolurker Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Last Saturday I spent a good day at the range and met this real nice guy. We ended up comparing gears and firearms and to my surprise, he told me that the plate carrier he had on was bought from ebairsoft. According to the guy he has used it numerous times for weapons training programs. This guys knew what he was doing as far as weapons handling but I was really shocked that he was using an airsoft PC.  I asked what made him go with a replica and he said it was made with the same stuff as the popular brands - 1000D Cordura .  Here is the PC he was using:  http://www.ebairsoft.com/force-recon-vest-land-hawg-p-4123.html    Would you use this for real life scenarios?  What is this PC's real deal counterpart? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Seems like a ciras in "ranger green", or so EBB advertises it. I used some TMC gear and pouches and they are very good for airsoft use, even for heavy airsoft use, but I wouldnt trust it with my life in real war scenarios, just for range shooting or weapon classes where lets be honest, you rarely abuse your gear and if you do, you just throw it to the cars trunk and keep going with other gear lying around. Â Certainly its made of 1000D cordura, but the more knowledgeable people will tell that is not enough as Im sure there are different cordura quality grades so as stitching quality... bla bla bla, and that matters too when you need your gear the most Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-MOOSE- Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 The real counterpart is the Eagle Industries CIRAS-Land. Â I would not use it if I went off to Afghanistan. I'm not doubting the 1000D Cordura, but I am doubting the stitching. I've handled and owned a few of the cheaper Chinese replica gears and have to say that the accuracy in cuts and stitching is very bad even if the general materials are good. However, there are other companies such as Flyye and Pantac that I would trust my life with, those replicas are very well made all in all. For airsoft though, I can do with replica gear since I'm using the gear once a week instead of every day for months. The Pantac and Flyye gear I have rivals that of the big brand names such as Eagle, Tactical Tailor, Paraclete, SDS, etc. that I have owned or handled in quality. Â My best advice is to do some good research about the quality of the company before you buy and not just read off the company web site. This vest might make your friend happy and satisfied with his purchase, after all it is much cheaper than the real thing and can still carry some weight. To my experience, Chinese companies such as TMC can be hit or miss products and still do not hold up to the quality of the more expensive brands. Quality comes with a price tag... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banshee_Will Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Moose kind of summed it up perfectly, all I have to add is this: Â Â Stitching is where the cost goes to and quality control. Â 1000D is just the material and at the moment everybody is switching to 500D and less. (More flexable, easier to work with and most importantly Lightweight) Edit: For spelling Edited July 18, 2011 by Banshee_Will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Extraordinaire Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whitehawk Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 AI MBSS + LBT 1961a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TB-Stalker Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) Let's get both!  Will do pictures later tonight when I have someone to use the camera but here is a kit list for now:  Base Gear  Claw Gear STALKER MKII TDUs (OD) or 5.11 Tactical Trousers (Tan) Warrior Assault Systems T-Shirt (Black) Helickon Australian Army Jacket (Black or OD) Warrior Assault Systems Elite Ops Cap (Tan) Oakley 8" Desert Assault Boots Warrior HWI Hard Knuckle Gloves SUNTO D6 DIVE WATCH/COMPUTER  Accessories  Element MKII Comtacs Motorola T7 Radio Warrior Assault Systems Sling Warrior Assault Systems Patch (Dark Earth and Black) Warrior Assault Systems Faded Union Jack Patch Element PTT for Motorola 2x Red Cylumes 7x Magpul PTS EMags  Plate Carrier  Warrior Assault Systems RICAS Compact Warrior Assault Systems Cargo Pack Warrior Assault Systems Admin Panel With Pouch Warrior Assault Systems Triple Open Top M4 Mag Pouch 4x Warrior Assault Systems Single Open Top M4 Mag Pouch Warrior Assault Systems Double Pistol Mag Pouch Warrior Assault Systems Grimlock Warrior Assault Systems Universal Radio Pouch  Belt Kit  Warrior Assault Systems Enhanced PLB Belt Warrior Assault Systems Roll Up Dump Pouch Warrior Assault Systems Utility Pouch 2x Warrior Assault Systems Smoke Grenade Pouches  In the post to me....  Systema PTW MAX M4A1 7x PTW Mags TM P226 3x P226 Mags Blackhawk P226 Holster Warrior Assault Systems Leg Panel Edited July 19, 2011 by TB-Stalker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RIXX Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Â Â Â Â Â The HAWK SPC by Armorsmith 2 x SDS Canteen pouch 1 X EI double M4 mag pouch 1 x Spec Ops X4 1 x Strobe Light pouch 1 x SDS speed reload pouch 1 x CSM dump pouch 1 x TT pistol mag pouch 1 x Aites Medic pouch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Jon Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 My first plate carrier after years of sticking to chest rigs and belt kits. I reckon its not a bad place to start. I'll grab some higher quality photos when I get it in the same place as my pouches and set it up. Â Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Protec? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Jon Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Vel-tye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banshee_Will Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 My first plate carrier after years of sticking to chest rigs and belt kits. I reckon its not a bad place to start. I'll grab some higher quality photos when I get it in the same place as my pouches and set it up. Â Â Â Â I love it........ Its a crime that it gets lost on the bottom of the page! Â Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Jon Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 thanks, Â and don't worry, it will be back with SFLCS and LBT goodies eventually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Did you get the Vel-Tye Rack for it? friend in Virginia Beach showed me his rack system for his hugger, its an interesting concept. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Jon Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Nope, I'm going to use LBT 2645A inserts for primary mags to save external molle space and they weigh less than a whole extra rig attached. Â Assuming I'm not mixing up the lo-vis and a product I haven't seen, being in blighty I doubt I've seen most of their products... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 A clean and simple CIRAS setup  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I had some time to tinker around so here's a little update. Added the pistol mags to the utility, the MAP and the dump pouch. It's been arranged so I don't need a 1st line. The secondary goes on a paddle mounted Serpa or Fobus. Â Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thepesh Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Â JPC clone by Emerson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Extraordinaire Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Â Â Â -Ex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
validtumoralarm Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Â JPC clone by Emerson. Â How are you liking yours, Pesh? I've had mine for a few months now and it's going strong, I'm just starting to get tired of all the comments from the Crye fans... "oh, well you can obviously tell from the quality that it's ACM," and all that. That's my only real complaint about the vest. Â Â I've been swapping out pouches to use this for my M4, Mk.17, AKM, and SAW, but I'd like to pick up some other rigs so I can just save this for my M4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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