PynkPanthyr Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hey guys, last monday, I received my Tokyo Marui MEU from Airsoft Atlanta, putting around 4 or 5 magazines through it that day. The next day, I started having problems with it so it is now no longer operational. I just got off the phone with Atlanta, figuring that gun would still be under warranty as thier site says. However he told me that I had voided my warranty by using propane/green gas in it. Are TM guns not supposed to be used with propane/green gas? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
ryan92 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Nope, i think they are ment to be used with 134a gas, green/propane is to powerfull. Thats even in Northern Ireland where the av.temperature is about 5-8.C at this time of year. Link to post Share on other sites
Harmless Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I've been using my TM P226 (stock) on green gas all year round for 2 years (or however long its been since they came out) and its still fine. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I've run all of my pistols ( all of which have been TM) on green gas/propane.. the only one that didn't like it was my Mk23. Link to post Share on other sites
ryan92 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Sorry i really should have made my post clearer, yes the majority of them will run without any problems on greengas/propane but they are not designed to handle the pressures, although they still work. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 You'll probably find with anything that runs on gas the retailers will only warranty them if they are only used with 134a. TM guns are meant for 134a, but as already said generally do run fine on greengas/propane. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 you did get a lemon. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 TM makes guns for the japaneese market, they are not permitted to use green gas as it can produce more than .98j (japan law) Therefore, TM guns are designed for 134a. Even though it is true that they are such good quality that they can handle green gas for long periods exept in the hotter countrys. Ergo, your warantee can become void if you used green gas. However, what is the problem with your gun, there are quite a few techies on arnies who can help you fix it. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 there are only so many things that can break on one of these, and good thing about TM is that you can replace just about anything on that. I've never run my TM on anything but propane.... Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 TM makes guns for the japaneese market, they are not permitted to use green gas as it can produce more than .98j (japan law) Therefore, TM guns are designed for 134a. Even though it is true that they are such good quality that they can handle green gas for long periods exept in the hotter countrys. Quoted because that was exactly what I was going to say. I too run my TM's on nothing but propane and have had no issues. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Depends on the temperature where you're at. From my calculations, propane/green gas starts becoming overly destructive when used in excess of 21°C (like running 134a at 40°C which the manual states not to do). If your slide isn't broken in two, there's still plenty of hope in fixing the gun yourself should AA refuse to do it for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Griffin Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 A team mate has been running his TM 226 on propane for 4 years and its still going strong. You just got a duff one. Link to post Share on other sites
alston251 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 What??? I run my TM MEU on green in Hong Kong. 25-28.C Link to post Share on other sites
rwoodcock01 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Just to comment that I run my TM 1911A1 and Hi-capa 4.3 on green since I got them. Admittedly they where designed for 134a, but the Hi-Capa has been running on green for two plus years now. Both pistols are stock bar they both use the nineball piston heads. Cheers Rich Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I've been running my MEU, Detonics and P226 on green since the day I got them. 134A is near to impossible to get around here. So far-zero problems. Link to post Share on other sites
snowman Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 So... What's actually wrong with it? Perhaps someone can help out as was said earlier. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Technical discussion thread http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...p;#entry2020699 Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I think the general consensus is that TM GBB's are 134A only, but the newer models (Glock 17 onwards, I believe) have been reported to be fine with green gas for an extended period of time. I only ever use 134A in my TM's, but my KSC and WA get green. Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 the Deagle, 1911s, 2011s and p226s rund well on green too and the Glock 17 came out after most of those. the most that happens to TMs anyway is that the magazines start leaking or the slide breaks. Link to post Share on other sites
Carbine Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I have always used green / propane in all my stock TMs and never had any problems apart from the piston head o-ring coming off in my old Hi-Capa. The magazines rarely develop in major leaks if the screw that holds the base plate on is kept tight. Link to post Share on other sites
Dackula Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 I was always warned against using green on a stock TM; the slides get buggered a lot faster than usual! Link to post Share on other sites
Senor Bear Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Get an alu slide? Link to post Share on other sites
7jl22sea Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I wouldnt personally put a TM through propane, with their more delicate parts and high tuning its just not a good idea. Stick to 134a like they were meant to take, unless of course you have a nbb, then its fine Link to post Share on other sites
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