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Daytonagun Type 56 Review


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I’ve been promising to do a review for this gun for a while, and since I have used it in 2 skirmishes now I though it was about time I did it.

 

I will add pictures tonight, if anyone wants anything in particular please request it and I’ll snap it for you. I’ve added two videos to the end of the review.

 

My gun is based on a Real Sword type56, I figured that it was going to spend all that money I might as well pay a little extra and get the best possible donor gun I could. I’ve never seen a Real Sword gun before this and I’ve got to say that it was worth the extra, the externals are very good. I requested that Justin also send me the gearbox too, so I have a Real Sword gearbox for a project :)

 

Getting it out of the box the first thing that hits you is the solid, full metal bolt, and of course the first thing I did was to rack the bolt. A very solid, and meaty clank, click is the response, it just feels right. The next thing that hits you is just how solid this feels, better than any airsoft gun I’ve felt, even that the Sun Project M16’s, which in turn are head and shoulders above most AEG’s which I’ve felt. Last thing you feel straight away is the shear weight, it’s heavy and needs a sling.

 

After pawing all over it I opened the cover to have a look at Justin’s work, I can honestly say that I was impressed, it all looks like it will out last me, it’s very well machined, nice big pieces of steel, and looks good quality steel too. I’ve bought many parts from Justin for my Sun Project M16’s, I know that his work is always top notch so I was expecting good things, and I was still impressed with the internals.

 

I connected the gun to external air and test fired it, first at 100psi, and it didn’t feel all that good, it was a bit slow and not as snappy as I was expecting. I normally fire my guns at 120 psi, so I set this one to 120psi, and it transformed. The recoil is great, very hard, big movement and really moves the gun, the response is very snappy at 120psi, a very sharp and quick movement. The whole experience is fantastic, even harder recoil than the Sun Project guns I have, it’s really impressive. Chrono results at 120psi are 350fps with .2’s and appox 650 RPM, this for me is bang on what I was looking for. I’ve got to mention the muzzle crack too, it really sounds like a AK, don’t really get the full effect on the youtube video, but it sounds deeper, slower and like nothing else I’ve heard.

 

Mags, which to use? I had a slight problem with AK Mags. I already have a few AK’s so of course had some mags, the problem was that none of the TM style mags would fit. After a quick search on Arnies I found that it was a problem with the Real Sword mag catch, so after a tiny bit of dremeling on the mag side catch they fitted without problems, and all types of TM compatible mags have feed without any problems.

 

I was happy to skirmish the gun, so at the skirmish I set the hop, and found the first bad thing, to set the hop is a bit of a pain. I needed to take off the top cover, remove the spring, set the hole at the top of the bolt to line up with the hop up adjustment screw, and set the hop up with a Allen key. I was lucky because I got a good hop setting first time, I could get slightly better and might do next game. I’ve not changed the hop up in both games since I first set it, it’s not moved and I don’t think it will. Range is on par with a similar power AEG, it seems better than most of the guns at the field, but there’s always one or two with well sorted hop ups which match it, but it’s not giving much away.

 

Gas consumption was something that I was a little worried about when I first used it, because of the heavier bolt, I was worried that it might use more gas. I can thankfully say that it hasn’t been a problem, it looks like it’s on par with a Sun Project M16, so appox 3000 shots for my 1.2ltr bottle. Long bursts are no problem at all, it’ll fire as long as there is gas and bb’s :), it’s certainly useful to fire long bursts when you need to cover team mates. Because of it’s very distinctive sound it’s good at scaring people too, when it fires people put their heads down, at surprisingly long distances too. There were many admiring glances in the safe zone and on the field, and a steady stream of people who wanted to fire it, everyone really liked the way it fired. One or two are considering buying one.

 

In finishing up the biggest complement I can give the gun is that I didn’t intend to use it all day in either of the games that I have played, I took AEG’s and other gas guns to both games and didn’t use them because I was enjoying this gun too much. The negatives of this gun are, the cost, hop up adjustment, external hose, mag mod needed and the weight. The positives are, the recoil, the feel/solidness of the gun, the experience and the range of the gun.

 

To me the positives far, far out weight the negatives and I am very pleased with my purchase. I can’t see any areas which could be improved, apart from the hop up adjustment, which I can’t see any better solution, and has worked fine for me. The internals aren’t showing any sign of wear, the blow back is crisp and powerful, the sound it makes is great and I can’t see myself using any other gun for a few more games yet :)

 

I hope that I’ve given a far review, and I’ll be happy to answer any questions.

 

 

 

 

And in Slow mo

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX4I29R7 ... annel_page

 

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Question - how much can you get out of the gun FPS wise if the PSI is raised. Do you loose or gain RPM if the PSI is changed?

 

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Don't really know because I stopped when I got to 350fps, to be honest the limit is the spring, i.e. the power will never get any higher than a certain amount, unless you change the spring, you'll need a stiffer spring which will up the rof too.

 

I can't get my phone to connect to my computer, I'll try at work tomorrow for the pictures.

 

Here is the working link to the slow mo

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX4I29R7xmQ

 

 

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Some more pics, still can't get the detials, but at least it shows the general idea

 

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The next few pics show what Justin has done with the collar, don't know if you can make out but even f it does slip then theres no where for the collar to slip too. Looks like a better system than Sun Project's.

 

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Congrats on getting that AK! I always wanted an Escort RPK.

 

Question for you. On the slow-mo video, the bolt stroke appears to be somewhat inconsistent. Have you noticed any FPS variation on full auto?

 

The video was taken as soon as it was taken out of the box, I would say that it's settled down some what now and it's certainly not effecting the consistency. Also if I remember it was taken from a small compressor rather than a gas bottle.

 

Consistency of this AK in general has been the best of all my gas guns, I would say that each shot is within 2 fps of each other, I will confirm that with a series of Chrono shots. Out on the field it does seem very consistent.

 

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Reviews like yours are reasons I just jumped on Sparrows offer of a DG GBB AK for $700 - fantastic.

 

Thanks!

 

That's such a great deal, I'm very, very tempted to buy another one. They should be great, they are using DBoys body, which I think it might be worth swapping the body for a VFC or something similar. \Would propably use the standard body until something happened to it.

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Being the curious sort, I was wondering about these modern GBB option. I have an old escort MP5, and the thing I really feel can be improved upon, is the hammer mechanism. Or rather, lack of hammer mechanism. The trigger is basically a glorified lever in this MP5, and the amount of yank you give it directly effects the way it performs. Is this the same with the DG AK? Looking at the trigger mechanism, do you release a hammer to open the gas valve, or is the gas valve directly opened by the trigger mech?

 

I know it's a bit of a technical question, but I think it's relevant to the review, and may benefit other people.

 

Thanks.

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Hi mate,

 

Not sure if I can answer this question, but I'll do my best. The trigger is connected to a airswitch, I'm pretty sure it's the same style as the MP5. I can only tell you my results but I've not had any problems, and I've also not seen anyone else have a problem with the trigger.

 

In fact the only problems I've heard about is with the donner gun, or the DBoys donner gun, a problem with the front site, but with the real sword I've not had any probelms, it's as solid as a rock.

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Yeah, I am aware of that. I was just saying I don't like the direct system of finger-operates-valve, that the Escorts and other CO2 guns seem to use. I feel sear triggers, with hammers provide much more consistent results than a finger ever can. Just my opinion. I know how both guns work. I own an Escort MP5 and have done work on my friends WA M4 when he had it.

Is it impossible for them to knock up a hammer driven valve system into an external CO2 rigged gun? I dunno, but it would have been nice. Still, this is sure to be a wonderful gun, and the collar is much improved. Great review Al, and thanks for the info.

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