Horsem4n Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 man, it really sucks that i don't have 500 bucks to buy the thing right now. how many are you guys planning on making or is this going to be an on going thing? are all the pre-orders filled out? Link to post Share on other sites
TSI Armories Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 The first production batch is 500, with additional batches planned depending on demand. We have 100 units allocated for pre order, with the rest going to distributors world wide. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 is the plan for the MARS sight also going forward? will that be available in a while too? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 The Replica MARS sight is going forward and will be available as a separate accessory. Link to post Share on other sites
Storm Shark Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Where can a pre-order be placed? And does the standard Tavor configuration feature a rail, since there will not be a MARS sight attached? Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Not sure about preorder details, but you can try contacting TSI directly about that. As for sight rails, you're supposed to be able to put other sights on the gun such as an EOTech, so that makes me think that it does have a optic rail. The problem with the ARES/Cybergun Tavor is that they followed a particular model of the Tavor in which the MARS is barrel mounted ... which means you can't mount any optic other than the MARS that ARES gives you. The TSI Tavor on the other hand copies a different model of the Tavor, so you can mount a RS MARS, an EOTech, an Aimpoint etc etc. Edit: TSI can be reached through their website: TSIArmories.com Link to post Share on other sites
Storm Shark Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 I e-mailed TSI yesterday night. And to my delight, they replied rather quickly (Thanks TSI!), stating that the STAR-21 will have a pre-order price tag of $650. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 sweet. i thought the STAR 21 would be at least 700. Link to post Share on other sites
Storm Shark Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Well, with the $45 flat shipping rate, it basically is. Can't wait for it though, I might get the ARES CTAR-21 and get this TSI STAR-21 to have a CQB model and a DMR base as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 TSI is charging 45 dollars for shipping? they're an american company. Link to post Share on other sites
Storm Shark Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Gotta bring in some revenue in this economy. They said pre-orders should ship around early July (at least for the STAR-21). Link to post Share on other sites
BigBabyMoses06 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 We really need some more details. Maybe pictures, and some composed list of what the pre-orders come with? I emailed TSI to get my hands on one, but I would REALLY like to see something before i shell out 700 bucks. Link to post Share on other sites
black shot Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 email them asking for details and prototype pics; they have already sent them out to the members of their mailing list but have told us not to reveal anything . Trust me this gun is going to be amazing even with its high price tag. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 They've got a working prototype which I'll be checking out in a couple weeks. They don't want to release pictures quite yet as the pictures they have are of the near production level finished prototype, and they want to make sure that the official pictures that do go out are of the finished piece. The preorder price through TSI will be substantially cheaper than the retail price. Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sounds nice in most aspects except 'external hopup adjustment'. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 why does "external hop up adjustment" bother you? most airsof guns have external hop up adjustment (you dont need to field strip the gun in order the adjust it) Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 this was supposed to be around $500, no? and now they are asking $650+... :| anyway, im mainly looking forward to the replica MARS optic, whenever that is released. later i will look into a complete rifle. -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 why does "external hop up adjustment" bother you? most airsof guns have external hop up adjustment (you dont need to field strip the gun in order the adjust it) I thought 'external' as with TM MP5, where hopup lever sticks outside and, of course, easily gets pushed by gear, branches etc. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 this was supposed to be around $500, no? and now they are asking $650+... :| anyway, im mainly looking forward to the replica MARS optic, whenever that is released. later i will look into a complete rifle. -Joe It's still around $500. It just costs around $650 if you want the Tavor with the MARS sight. They've stayed true to their original expected price point. Unlike the Ares Tavor which can only use the MARS sight that comes with it, the TSI Tavor can use any optic you can fit on the upper rail. Link to post Share on other sites
Mig1 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 this was supposed to be around $500, no? and now they are asking $650+... :| anyway, im mainly looking forward to the replica MARS optic, whenever that is released. later i will look into a complete rifle. -Joe He said the $650 was for the sniper varient, which was always expected to be more than the standard version because of the upgrades. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 the only differences between the 2 are asthetics. the star comes with a bipod and longer scope rail, internals are the same (as far as i know, im not on their mailing list :/) Link to post Share on other sites
black shot Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 there are differences between the sniper variant and the others in terms of internals. and the price for all models can vary some since you can specify certain internals like with their galils Link to post Share on other sites
BigBabyMoses06 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Got it. NVM. Link to post Share on other sites
wazzy1013 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 from what i can tell, the only difference b/t the star and the normal version is that the sniper type is made w/ a custom 6.01 tightbore where the normal tar is a 6.03 (as both are 509mm) *also, there replica MARS must really be something if it costs more then the TAR aeg; and is about 1/2 the real one (more or less) Link to post Share on other sites
TSI Armories Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 wazzy - The MARS sight showing on our web site IS the real steel version, NOT the replica, hence the price. Our STAR model includes an Harris bipod and a scope riser in addition to the 6.01mm inner barrel. Link to post Share on other sites
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