mimesis Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Why is it that nobody makes a decently priced, decent quality, Commander-sized metal kit, that you could transplant the innards of a MEU into? Surely there's a market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Now it's the era of steel... Inokatsu, RA-Tech both are comming out with steel guns, I'm guessing they will release many variations including commander sized 1911's. Wolf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lazyshark Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Well it seems like guarder is busy supporting the other tm pistols for now. Too bad there aren't any steel kits for wa on the market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 There's always ProG4 for that;-) They sell some custom made SV IMM for Magna and SCW but no 1911 unfortunately. Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Why is it that nobody makes a decently priced, decent quality, Commander-sized metal kit, that you could transplant the innards of a MEU into? Surely there's a market. Hear, hear! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 A Commander or even Officers 1911 that isn't a WA (or the old shocking WE one) would be nice to have. However i can't see it happening soon 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I wonder why. . . . WA's compact line of 1911s is quite popular. . . why wouldn't marui want to dominate that niche? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 They're still able to milk the Government market at the moment, No doubt they'll move onto the Commander/Officer range soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't think TM will go head to head with WA in the domestic market which is the only market that counts to either of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Yeah, too bad that while popular they are $300 odd and require another $200 to get them running great on Green to skirmish with. But at the end of the day yeah we have the Detonics but another skirmish ready 1911 Compact (a 1991A1 Officers / Compact would be great) would be nice to see. After the fail of the WE 3.8 1911 it would be good to fill up that part of the market. 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I've run WA on green since i started buying them, not one has suffered, bit heavier on the gas but in game perfomance they're comparable, same with TM, never had one break, including my 12 year old M9 which shoots as good as ever on its original mag which is 100% original, but as someone with experience of both makes I feel I can give an unbiased account, And as for price, you get what you pay for, top finish reliable performance from WA, wank finish and reliable performance from TM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't think TM will go head to head with WA in the domestic market which is the only market that counts to either of them. Wrong, they already go head to head in some areas (M9s and 1911 full size-lines). In japan, WAs are more of a collector's item and not really skirmished much. As far as reliability and such. . . can't comment since I don't own WAs, but their blowback system and hopup is more complex than marui's one (and that's not a compliment). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wolfgeorge Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't care much about Commander/Officer models... I only like 5 inch 1911's! As for WA vs TM I only prefer the WA exterior and their excellent metal kits ! TM rules when it comes to sheer performance/accuracy. Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Nothing wrong with the TM finish, if you compare say £150 for a TM gun to £300 for a WA, you don't get half the finish, you get about 80-90% of it so well worth it But to be honest i have seen WA's that while they did not fail, did not seem comfortable on Green, but that was indoors on a warm day, maybe out in the British chill they will be better. 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 My observation was really directed at companies like Prime, Nova, PGC, Airsoft Surgeon, etc. etc. We already have a bunch of TM guns that we can raid to get the right parts. Just give me a couple of MBKs of 1911s with 4.25" barrels, and I'll take it from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 As far as reliability and such. . . can't comment since I don't own WAs, but their blowback system and hopup is more complex than marui's one (and that's not a compliment). Blowback is an area where WA beat TM hands down. The kick of some WA 1911s on duster is better than TMs on green. Partly down to the heavyweight ABS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Blowback is an area where WA beat TM hands down. The kick of some WA 1911s on duster is better than TMs on green. Partly down to the heavyweight ABS. I was referring to the complexity of the blowback unit /nozzle assembly, not the blowback per-se. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Oh I see. I consider them to be much of a muchness really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 True on the WA's but i find TM give a snappier return, plus on some models of WA the blowback almost feels too strong for the gun. 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 FireKnife, only you could make too much recoil a negative of a WA... Anyway, seeing as this is indeed a picture thread. Here's a pic for you guys in barren wasteland of TM compacts 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I'll buy the left one from you : <, do you accept payment in kidneys? 100% healthy, stone-free . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 FireKnife, only you could make too much recoil a negative of a WA... On some i have tried it is fine, but on one or two it has felt like the thing wants to eject the slide further than the BB As for the compacts wish TM did bother to make one, a little 3" barrel 6 shot one like some of the Kimbers etc. 'FireKnife' 'FireKnife' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I'll buy the left one from you : <, do you accept payment in kidneys? 100% healthy, stone-free . Ha, that's probably the cheapest of the three. Less than your average TM. Actually yeah, I'll trade for your kidney. They fetch what? $30K on the black market. Think of all the WAs I could buy ha ha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenxin Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 You'll have to pay a black market surgeon thou , plus the fees of the broker, plus a medical insurance for me , plus 110% of profits go to me and my family, plus any future medical expenses will be billed to you until the day of my death, So, anyways, yeah, compact WAs....damn TM, compact 1911 go (still thinking if I sould pick up a detonics. . . ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Ha, I'm pretty sure thats not how dealings in the black market works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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