ThaFlash Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 It actually is a very stable stance, but it takes a while to get used to. With knees bent and weight forward it's a great stance to control recoil for follow up shots. Your feet are square because the shoulders are square, you shoulders, hips and legs are in line. It's still an awkward stance for me to shoot from (especially with a rifle) but I shoot better squared up. Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 i really dont think that airsofters have any right to question the shooting stance of a Force Recon Marine. -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
McArthur Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 It works for Force Recon. It won't work for airsoft. Lets drop it there. Anybody got any "heroics" shots of Marines? I'm about to edit one into this post, I found a schweet one at MP.net 24th MEU in Afghanistan. Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 That is what you call a "Combat Stance" its how you are supposed to shoot, its mean't for combat not a qual range stance. Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Depending on the weapon, that's how I shoot, except with one leg foward as other have said. I find it's a very comfortable stance and supportive of the weapons recoil. Link to post Share on other sites
shadownova Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I think the confusion here is that the Marines in the picture are using a qualification stance but wearing their combat gear. No where found is their rifles either, so they aren't practicing transitions either. Second and third guy from the left is standing almost straight up! Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I have found that standing almost straight up works fine for me. I am 6' tall and would always get told to bend down more. I also have a messed up back that requires me to stand tall almost all day. So that might have something to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Thanks to KWP and Agent Hunk! Some good M249 pics in there I somewhat agree with KWP - while it may technically be forum legal to post random, oversized pics. I really do think it would be nice if people provided some background info to the pic (The orginal quote would be fine) as well as resize it to something a bit more friendly for viewers (Not everybody has ultra-fast broadband. While broadband down here in NZ works, everytime somebody puts one of those Marines.mil photos straight into this thread the entire page has a hernia because the picture is so large) Don't do it because the Mods say so. Do something because it helps the thread and the people involved McArthur, at least you got the point. Thanks! Some others also agreed with me, but chose to pm me instead of posting here. However, forum rules are different and people like it, so we have to accept that. About the FR shooting stance: Shadownova is right. It's about facing any potential incoming round with the maximum coveraga of your body armour and escpecially the SAPI plates. Plus this stance helps to safely side step in indoor scenarios without having to take your eyes of the threat. Chris Costa from Magpul teaches that in the famous "Art of the tactical carbine Vol.1" video. Link to post Share on other sites
shadownova Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I have found that standing almost straight up works fine for me. I am 6' tall and would always get told to bend down more. I also have a messed up back that requires me to stand tall almost all day. So that might have something to do with it. I can relate to this. I get told to do this and that with my back and likewise I have some back issues. If I stand the "proper way" my groupings go from very nice to very poor. But I always try to have proper foot placement, tight elbows, and present as much plate as possible. Link to post Share on other sites
aznsk8s87 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I haven't gone pistol shooting in a while but next time i go, I'll be sure to try it... What is "proper foot placement"? weak side slightly in front? Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Your supposed to have your feet shoulder width apart, neither in front knees bent head up arms tight. Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 i really dont think that airsofters have any right to question the shooting stance of a Force Recon Marine. -Joe Amen to that! I was taught the same stance when I cam to my current unit. It was a departure from everything I was taught as an MA (MP) and takes some getting used to. But as already mentioned here it IS very stable when done right and presents your plates to the target. If you don't present the plate then what the hell is the use of wearing all that ######? And this shooting posture is more than applicable to airsoft in the end shooting is shooting. Great pics posted so far. The SPEC-OPS brand holster Joe was talking about is a nice holster they sell them at the MCX here in Iraq. Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 heres the holster i was speaking of: http://www.specopsbrand.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=30# as far as my shooting stance, i prefer my weak foot a bit forward, and my body canted very slightly. but thats me. -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 USMC Urban Camo Prototype: Link to post Share on other sites
AT14 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Hardly any different to the dessie MARPAT but it looks good. What's the chances of it being adopted? Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Hardly any different to the dessie MARPAT but it looks good. What's the chances of it being adopted? Looks like they removed the dark brown from the dessie and added gray and blue. Just like all the previous urban patterns I expect it to never being adopted. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 that actually look like the prototype of the desert camo, i remember seeing a pic a while ago that showed the prototype digital, and tiger patterns, and both had that same bluish, greyish color. Link to post Share on other sites
Squeezee Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Funny, I was going to say the same thing. It does remind me of a prototype I have seen before. Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Was it a Marine Sniper who killed the three pirates? Had to be very difficult. Link to post Share on other sites
pat.l Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I believe it was three SEAL snipers shooting 3 pirates at the same time. That's what I read on a few reports somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Badly Browned Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yup, three SEALs each took a shot http://www.military.com/news/article/three...810&wh=news Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yup, three SEALs each took a shot http://www.military.com/news/article/three...810&wh=news Wow, I read the article. They did a fantastic job. Wonder what caliber and weapon system they used. Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Hunk Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 It's being discussed in the SEAL thread. On the Marine side of things. Entry Gear has alot of coyote brown stuff on sale if anyone is looking to buff out their load outs. Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Wow, I read the article. They did a fantastic job. Wonder what caliber and weapon system they used. Not sure, only thing you can garner from the article is they had PVS/22s. Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 a note to what wesker said: entrygear is amazing. if you want stuff, get it there. KWP: where is that picture from? any details? -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
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