DODcrazy Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 DOD, I thought Molle was your sworn enemy. Change of heart? Got bored of web gear lol. I still love it but I wanted something more effective. Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 dod, you cant just "choose" to take an M14 from the armory. you get what they issue you, which aint gonna be that. but use it if you like, its your loadout. it would take alot longer than a year to phase a new magazine in. -Joe Joe, I will have to disagree, with the proper manufacturing base, and the right amount of money Im sure it could it be done. IN the US the first is doable, the second not so much with the current massive deficit, but this isnt a political discussion board. Also, H&K makes great products, so at lest you'll be getting good quality weapons, on that note, is the "lowest" bidder taken into account? As H&K could easily win this, since I would assume they already have a VERY large income, larger than the other competing companies, making them able to make a smaller margin of profit that the others. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Joe, I will have to disagree, with the proper manufacturing base, and the right amount of money Im sure it could it be done. IN the US the first is doable, the second not so much with the current massive deficit, but this isnt a political discussion board. Also, H&K makes great products, so at lest you'll be getting good quality weapons, on that note, is the "lowest" bidder taken into account? As H&K could easily win this, since I would assume they already have a VERY large income, larger than the other competing companies, making them able to make a smaller margin of profit that the others. larger income then colt? maybe i could probably believe that. Larger the FN? i would they are definitely close, but i would give it to FN on this. Unfortunately it was only between them on the down select, and honestly i think should should stop just looking at the "Big 3". though i still think Hk shouldn't have won it and Colt should have( on paper at least). Would like to someday see what KAC submitted heard it was a Stoner LMG, then Ive also heard it was a Mag fed Stoner LMG, but doesn't look like they will say. this could be good news though: http://soldiersystems.net/2009/12/06/cl-mag-from-armatac/ Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Ohh my bad, I forgot FN was in it...and the FAL totally slipped my mind too... Link to post Share on other sites
Squeezee Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 That CL mag in the link looks incredibly bulky to me. Anyone else agree? Link to post Share on other sites
zarda999 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 DOD I loved that first pic. With a little photoshop skill that last pic could be epic with a new background . . . maybe a chopper. -Ryan Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 That CL mag in the link looks incredibly bulky to me. Anyone else agree? Yea definitely looks Ginormous: ( another By the way) But that unfortunately is a trade off, a little more Bulky nest( contradicting to IAR concept i know) for added ammo, and with the M4/416 it still ways less then a SAW. Plus with that you can look at it 2 ways. 1.) I get a weapon in my squad that does a saws job( for the most part) that weighs less, and i only have to give up 50 rnds( if the saw has a 200rnd box on). 2.) I get a weapon in my squad that does a saws job( again for the most part) that weighs less, and i get 50 more rnds then before( if the saw has a 100rnd nutsack on). Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 reaper: could be and would be are 2 very different things. -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 reaper: could be and would be are 2 very different things. -Joe true indeed I was speaking hypothetically, done are the days of getting the best possible equipment i suppose Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 but the IAR hasn't got a drum mag yet even though HK won the contract they have still yet to produce a magazine although i belive FN are still working on one. Link to post Share on other sites
shadownova Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 reaper: could be and would be are 2 very different things. -Joe Don't forget about 'should be'. Sometimes they all seem to reside on completely different planets. Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Don't forget about 'should be'. Sometimes they all seem to reside on completely different planets. indeed... Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 but the IAR hasn't got a drum mag yet even though HK won the contract they have still yet to produce a magazine although i belive FN are still working on one. if you read the articles i posted previously posted, HK hasn't won the contract (yet), they are still testing it. BTW here's a another Article on it. http://defensetech.org/2009/12/03/hk-wins-...ion-or-does-it/ Supposedly the USMC are still working on getting a functional 100-150 rnd drum mag for it. and FN and Armatac( posted above) are working on drum mags. Plus i would be surprised if enough grunts ask for it, that Magpul would come up with something. and absolute worst case scenario, if someone running running the IAR need more ammo, they could buy either the FN, or armatac( if they release to civics, and they are reliable) out of pocket, which would suck though Edit: i forgot to add that is supposedly working on a drum mag, but thats just a rumor at the monent. Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Hunk Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Anyone know where to find COYOTE BROWN waist packs? Supply Captain is out of stock. Link to post Share on other sites
crotmate Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 hope i dont get flamed for this but, do marines use OTV or IOTV? and does anyone know where i can get a decent one in CB? Link to post Share on other sites
KALASH69 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Both. But the OTV was more common. Now the MTV and SPC are fairly common. OTVs here: https://www.entrygear.com/product.asp?id=1060%20CB $75 bucks. CB. Real deal. Link to post Share on other sites
Aeros Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 not both, they used the OTV, not IOTV, however they did use the EOTV (lol i know confusing) The IOTV is the Army's equivalent of the MTV, and the EOTV is just a regular OTV with full molle/pals webbing. there weren't a whole lot of EOTVs in use, but it would work I can attest to the entry gear one, I have one its nice but he may have trouble getting it in the UK, and so I'd say the next best option is a Flyye one, that is if you fit Medium (37"-41" chest) Link to post Share on other sites
master_titled Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Does it really pain you that much to search? They use the OTV and Enhanced OTV (all molle). Not the IOTV which the Army uses... Edit: Post sniped! ha cha! Link to post Share on other sites
crotmate Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Does it really pain you that much to search? well, with 94 pages worth on the subject, yes. thanks to all the people who replied with helpful answers Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 well, with 94 pages worth on the subject, yes. thanks to all the people who replied with helpful answers Please search before asking a question. Link to post Share on other sites
Squeezee Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Snow MARPAT- http://www.techmarkentinc.com/page656.html Link to post Share on other sites
KALASH69 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 ^Thats pretty neat, I wonder if thats the real deal one. Price is pretty steep though... not both, they used the OTV, not IOTV, however they did use the EOTV (lol i know confusing) Thats the one, I always get them confused. Link to post Share on other sites
Aeros Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 nice find squeeze! now if only it would snow in louisiana! Lol (it actually did on the 4th.. but it didnt last past the morning ) Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 *EDIT* Ignore that last bit! They won't let you buy it from EntryGear being British if I am reading this right. Your Country is blocked. You have reached this page because your country is not on our list of authorized access locations. We have limited access to our web site in order to reduce the amount of erroneous traffic that is generated daily by foreign users that we do not offer our products to. Access to our web site is currently being limited to the list of countries as shown below. These locations represent the United States and countries where the U.S. has significant military presence. Continued access to our web site from any of these foreign countries does not permit any foreign buyer located in these countries to purchase products from Tactical Advantage, Inc. Authorized Countries: United States (including Alaska & Hawaii) Puerto Rico U.S. Virgin Islands Afghanistan Iceland Iraq Italy Germany Japan Portugal South Korea Spain United Kingdom If you are in the U.S. military/U.S. DoD contractor located at an APO/FPO address in one of the above listed countries or if you are located elsewhere in the globe and feel that you have reached this page in error, please contact us and we can work with you to determine if our system has flagged you as a 'false positive' for our blocked countries list. We thank you for your understanding and our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause you. Link to post Share on other sites
Adiventure Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 *EDIT* Ignore that last bit! They won't let you buy it from EntryGear being British if I am reading this right. Not sure of the policy, but the list has the UK as an authorized place to order from. Link to post Share on other sites
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