my_plague_666 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Literally the first time I've seen an AK with railed handguards that I like I bet that front end is nice and light, unlike the small car I have hanging off the front of mine! Might have to look at getting an extra outer barrel and setting something like that up for when I need a lighter gun. lol, that style of handguard was just probably the first railed HG available for AKs. very old Link to post Share on other sites
Gumball Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 something ive been working on Link to post Share on other sites
sowi Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 OMG, a saiga????? details please Link to post Share on other sites
DFM56 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) lol, that style of handguard was just probably the first railed HG available for AKs. very old I'm not saying that this is the first time I've seen them, just the first time that they haven't looked like *suitcase* Aso, Saiga is damn sexy. I've been wanting to build a burst "shotgun" out of an AK and make it look like the Saiga 2000 from bad company 2 for a while now. Edited August 22, 2010 by DFM56 Link to post Share on other sites
stubert Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 to make an ak-m4 adapter for an AKS is easier than you think: *snip* Little late to the party but this AK looks EPIC. Nicely done. Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 once you lot have stopped trying to make your AK look like an M4 and went and bought a M4 that should allow the rest of us to appreciate the beauty of wood and metal of the AK47. only kidding your AK's look very nice and M4 like Anyway here's a picture of my latest AK. It's a CYMA with blowback and it might just be the best AK I've ever owned. seriously. Why I don't hear you ask? well it has all the benefits of the newer TM style blowback design but still uses a V3 gearbox and standard mags. oh and the battery is in the stock and you can fit a large cell in there (once you swap the mini connectors to large). It's built like the old style TM Ak47 but is as solid as a LCT. a quick pro's and con's it's cheap it's solid like a solid thing it has blowback it uses standard mags it has a v3 gearbox con's the wood is a bit orange. BTW it's not the blowback system that attaches to the piston instead it has a blowback engine built into the top of the gearbox 95% like the new TM models. If anyone is wondering UNcompany have them in stock. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 any plans to plonk the internals in your lovely LCT AK47 jebus? i had something similar planned a long while back Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 i'm very tempted Link to post Share on other sites
adadqgg Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 actually only the AK47 was blued. everything else (including your AKSU) was painted with a semi gloss/satin black paint. Subsequent variants were blued, THEN painted over with paint. I found some bluing under the paint of my Dboys AK... win. Link to post Share on other sites
DFM56 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) once you lot have stopped trying to make your AK look like an M4 and went and bought a M4 that should allow the rest of us to appreciate the beauty of wood and metal of the AK47. Implying that V2 gearboxes aren't trash and m4s are worth owning. Some of us just like having the best of both worlds I'll be getting some more AKs next summer when I can afford something nice like a RS or LCT, and that one will stay stock and beautiful Also, what number is that? I know its one of the newest ones, but I thought they all used the VFC style pinned construction. This one has screws like the maruis? Edited August 23, 2010 by DFM56 Link to post Share on other sites
stubert Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 the best AK I've ever owned. seriously. Praise indeed looking at your collection. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 once you lot have stopped trying to make your AK look like an M4 and went and bought a M4 that should allow the rest of us to appreciate the beauty of wood and metal of the AK47. only kidding your AK's look very nice and M4 like Anyway here's a picture of my latest AK. It's a CYMA with blowback and it might just be the best AK I've ever owned. seriously. Why I don't hear you ask? well it has all the benefits of the newer TM style blowback design but still uses a V3 gearbox and standard mags. oh and the battery is in the stock and you can fit a large cell in there (once you swap the mini connectors to large). It's built like the old style TM Ak47 but is as solid as a LCT. a quick pro's and con's it's cheap it's solid like a solid thing it has blowback it uses standard mags it has a v3 gearbox con's the wood is a bit orange. BTW it's not the blowback system that attaches to the piston instead it has a blowback engine built into the top of the gearbox 95% like the new TM models. If anyone is wondering UNcompany have them in stock. Please Jebus, remove that image, my jealousy meter is about to explode BTW: the blowback can be felt like in the TM model or is it just like a moving plate like the guarder system? Link to post Share on other sites
waxxer Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Some of us just like having the best of both worlds exactly. Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 the blowback can be felt and is enough to take your aim off target so that you need to reacquire the target. It's not as strong as a GBB rifle but is still feels better than the piston blowback and that's down to the counterweight that gets thrown about in the recoil engine. I popped open the gearbox and noticed that the gears and piston aren't V3 compatable however I believe that replacement gears can be bought. The piston isn't a direct copy of the new TM blowback piston so I'm going to run it stock until CYMA spare pistons become available. The gearbox shell is different as well due to the design of the recoil engine. The tappet plate, cylinder, anti reversal, selector plate, nozzle, piston head, cylinder head, trigger and switch are all V3 standard. The gearbox has metal bushings fitted as standard but I didn't check out which size. Stock it's firing at 410 FPS so I dropped in a M95 but might need to drop it to a M90 as the airseal is very good and is just creeping over 350. The model number is CYMA 046 and there are a few videos on youtube showing the recoil working. This shows the recoil. You will notice the bolt goes fully forward after every shot unlike the piston blowbacks which i think is a good feature. I've modded a set of LCT wooden furniture on to the CYMA and it looks very nice and I will post some pictures up later showing off the new wood. Lastly I noticed when i had it in bits that there is a channel for wiring on the gas block so it looks like CYMA maybe looking to produce a folding stock variant with battery storage in the front grip. Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 CYMA 046 AK 47 with LCT wooden furniture and Guarder pistol grip. Rear site has been swapped for a RS one with white markings. All 3 of my Type 3's together. LCT at the top with RS wood, CYMA in the middle and TM AK 47 with metal receiver and Guarder wooden furniture Link to post Share on other sites
sowi Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) any pictures of the inner parts? I thought the 046 has a simple mechanical blowback system... Edited August 24, 2010 by sowi Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 check out this . Link to post Share on other sites
Gumball Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 something ive been working on OMG, a saiga????? details please http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=188474 In that pic i used the dust cover from one of my other aks, im still waiting on a dust cover to mount on a scope. After that its just securing loose bolts and what not. I also need a harris bipod aswell, may pick up a g&p one on ebay for 30 bucks. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Subsequent variants were blued, THEN painted over with paint. i believe they were actually parkerized. or at least something similar, not blued. Link to post Share on other sites
Fellowz Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Which model of Cyma AK do you have? i have the AIMS model of the CYMA Link to post Share on other sites
huntER_HuntED Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Nice guns everyone, especially yours jebus and on the subject of blowback,what do we think of the APS AKS-74s? http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/accuracy-pneumatics-shooting-a-p-s/a-p-s-aks74-real-wood-electric-blowback-rifle-ask-204.html Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Thank you very much Jebus, just a question, do you think stock internals can endure a regular use or the 410FPS? if this AK is precise enough, I would like to consider it as my DMR base, so... do you think its precise enough to be used as DMR? Thanks BTW: I still hate and envy you... a lot Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I've had a blowback APS in bits and its mid range quality. blowbacks built into the piston like the APS one can have problems. The build and finish is ok on the APS models and as you have seen the wooden furniture is really dark brown. would I buy one? no is the simple answer as there are too many other better AKS-74's for the same price. CYMA or Kalash spring to mind however these don't have blowback. Link to post Share on other sites
huntER_HuntED Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Cool, i'm just gonna wait till my skirmish site sell their Hire AKs, or get a cyma 0.40 when i get the money Link to post Share on other sites
mightyjebus Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Thank you very much Jebus, just a question, do you think stock internals can endure a regular use or the 410FPS? if this AK is precise enough, I would like to consider it as my DMR base, so... do you think its precise enough to be used as DMR? Thanks BTW: I still hate and envy you... a lot simple answer is yes. Maybe adding a tightbore and playing around with hop rubbers and nubs would help out if used for a DMR Link to post Share on other sites
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