slu Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) the website description said it only works with the RA tech parts On their site, look at RA-TECH Gas Series -> RAG WA series, and the first item is "Plastic Nozzle with tool adjust NPAS set (For INO, WA, G&P)." I would imagine that's the one you want. You can also contact the RA-Tech people directly via email or at the GGI forum. DarkLite: So is the AGM lighter than the G&P WOC in similar configuration? Point 2 would lead me to think so? Edited June 4, 2009 by slu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrooklynBorn Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 This part that part, *fruitcage* it. I'm getting the WE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 This part that part, *fruitcage* it. I'm getting the WE. You might have to deal with some parts if you go with the WE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 for example- the hop-up I chose the AGM/WA because the hop-up was supposed to be decent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 DarkLite: So is the AGM lighter than the G&P WOC in similar configuration? Point 2 would lead me to think so? I can't say. The G&P I had a go with was RISRAS'd up the chuff. The AGM I had a go with was the standard M4a1 model, no RIS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dykefish Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Well just recieved my AGM today (live in US). Ordered from Ehobbyasia.com on Sunday. Came alot quicker than I expected, 3 days from China, wow! The Good.... Gun looks good! Recoil harder thad I expect on green gas. This is my first airsoft gun so I dont have any airsoft to compare to, however I do own a RS carbine. I can confirm the buffer tube is mil-spec and just for ships and giggles my AGM is now wearing my Magul CTR adj stock that I mometarily pulled from my AR. As I stated the recoil is harder than I thought it would but of course softer than a 5.56 round. But at the same time the AGM recoils harder the my AR does when I'm firing .22lr from my AR with my 22 drop-in conversion bolt. So the recoil on the AGM is pretty much between the 5.56 and .22 with just a hair closer to the 5.56 side. I haven't had much time to test out the performance so I cant comment much yet. Hopefully this weekend I'll be able to test her out hard core. now the Bad... First complaint... For the life of me I can not get the bolt catch to work. I set the mag switch both forward and back but the catch will not hold the bolt either way. It looks the maybe either the lever on the mag that pushes up the bolt catch button has a weak spring or that there is a little spring button that is hanging up the bolt catch???? Delta-ring loose... easy fix no gas tube. no metal heat shields under the hand gaurds. (thought I saw somewhere that they did)? loose buffer tube nut... easy fix forward assist button does work but does not push this bolt forward. ... All of these bads are easily fixable or over-lookable. I keep reminding myself $122.00 plus shipping which I still consider to be a great deal. She looks like alot of fun. I couldn't resist a few fill ups of dry firing. If anyone has any advice on my bolt catch delima please help. Thx Edited June 4, 2009 by dykefish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chevieblazer Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Stupid question, but have you checked the bolt catch? Maybe the mag ain't the problem. Also, has anyone tried if the AGM mags leak on GG can be fixed by using the G&P seals? I mean, if those truly are 1:1 copies of the WA mags, the G&P seals should fit, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 when you say bolt face, do you mean the part that contacts the hop-up? http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index....e1599932259fdbc something like this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dykefish Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Stupid question, but have you checked the bolt catch? Maybe the mag ain't the problem. I checked the bolt catch and it will hold the bolt if I manually press the hold catch button up while the bolt cycled.However the catch stops holding the bolt as soon as I release pressure to the button. If your looking inside the lower reciever and directly under the bolt catch there's a little spring loaded button built into the lower that locks onto a jaw of the bolt catch when the catch is at it's lowest postion. I assume its there to keep the bolt catch in place in the down postion unitil it gets the signal from the magazine. So what Im thinking is either... a. weak spring at mag not applying enough pressure to bolt catch. b. bolt catch retaining button too strong and wont allow the jaw to release. or. c. im completely wrong and its something else. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) when you say bolt face, do you mean the part that contacts the hop-up? http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index....e1599932259fdbc something like this? Yeah, I think that's commonly referred to as the bolt or the nozzle. The bolt face would just be the front of that part. dykefish: The bolt catch problem may be a combination of both issues. You should probably find another mag to try it out on, one that you know has a working bolt lever, so you can narrow things down. The magazine I received with my WOC had a similar issue, although it works fine if I used the bolt catch manually, it never caught if I charged the bolt back on an empty mag and just let it go. Edited June 4, 2009 by slu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dykefish Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 dykefish: The bolt catch problem may be a combination of both issues. You should probably find another mag to try it out on, one that you know has a working bolt lever, so you can narrow things down. The magazine I received with my WOC had a similar issue, although it works fine if I used the bolt catch manually, it never caught if I charged the bolt back on an empty mag and just let it go. Good advice, I just ordered 2 of these GHK's mags .... http://www.airsoftpost.com/magazine-wester...le-p-31064.html hopefully solves my problem. I'll post back with the results. Thx! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris337 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Good advice, I just ordered 2 of these GHK's mags .... http://www.airsoftpost.com/magazine-wester...le-p-31064.html hopefully solves my problem. I'll post back with the results. Thx! Hi everyone, there is a vid from UN Company on the AGM M4 on Airsoft-news.eu and they seem to have the same problem with the bolt catch not working properly with the standard mag. Later on in the vid they changed to the WA compatible mags from Bomber and they did the trick. So the problem seems to lie with standard mags the gun comes with. chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Hi everyone, there is a vid from UN Company on the AGM M4 on Airsoft-news.eu and they seem to have the same problem with the bolt catch not working properly with the standard mag. Later on in the vid they changed to the WA compatible mags from Bomber and they did the trick. So the problem seems to lie with standard mags the gun comes with. chris No problem at all with mine. At +1k rounds since my last update and all is well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chevieblazer Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Darn! So much for the 18$ mags being the perfect solution Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I am thinking that it shouldn't take much effort to mod the mags to work. I have had to mod my MAG and KA mags to work with my AEGs so its only to be expected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Double post: Edited June 4, 2009 by 3vi1-D4n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I just got some confusing info from a few sources, are AGM internals a copy of the WA/G&P too? I had a friend say at an airsoft store that there not, however Ebb seems to say its fully compatible. Whats the real 411. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) I just got some confusing info from a few sources, are AGM internals a copy of the WA/G&P too? I had a friend say at an airsoft store that there not, however Ebb seems to say its fully compatible. Whats the real 411. The G&P WOC series is based off the WA. The AGM is also based off the WA, it's supposedly a 100% clone. So anything that has to do with WA/G&P should be compatible with the AGM. As soon as I get the money into my PP, I'm going to order one. -Luis Edited June 4, 2009 by Luis21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poison123 Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 The G&P WOC series is based off the WA. The AGM is also based off the WA, it's supposedly a 100% clone. So anything that has to do with WA/G&P should be compatible with the AGM. As soon as I get the money into my PP, I'm going to order one. -Luis The AGM is 100% clone of the WA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 The AGM is 100% clone of the WA. Yep, there's my confirmation. Thanks, -Luis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frakk2k Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 I saw some new pictures on rsov, and I noticed there is no sling mount on the stock tube? Will normal AEG ones work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 No. You'd have to use real ones or ones made for the WA which are short of being real ones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frakk2k Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Fhanks, I guess I will look into some RS ones then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
average Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Just went to AEX in santa clara to show the guys their the clone. Apparently AGM took some short cut to make the upper receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Just went to AEX in santa clara to show the guys their the clone. Apparently AGM took some short cut to make the upper receiver. Like what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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