Maxwell94 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 personally i hate AGM rifles. i love the WA and G&P WOC ones though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I would go with: G&P WA 6.08mm Inner Barrel with Hop Up Chamber Set RA-TECH New Version Aluminum Nozzle w/NPAS RA-TECH Plastic Nozzle tip RA-TECH Bolt Stop (or LCT Bolt Stop) RA-TECH Aluminum Bolt Carrier (or 5ku Vltor Bolt Carrier, it seems to be well made) Â I can't comment on hammer and sear setup. I have G&P and it's good. Â Don't expect "plug and play". Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell94 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 i have an WA M4 with a noveske body  i love it. hopefully im going to get some upgrades  do you know what upgrades i should get?  also how is the G&P WOC?  i dont have one but have heard some good things about it  hey also, which do you belive is better. the WOC or WA M4? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shinhk Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) Learn to use the edit button. You're gonna get scoldings for spamming. Also you really shouldn't be asking about which being better unless you add "AGM" in the choice. I personally have 2 WA's because I prefer originals and I support their designers. I can tell you this much...just swapping parts out won't get you a "perfectly working" gun. It takes tweaking and understanding so even if you think you're saving money buying a "cheap" gun, you're going to spend a lot more time trying to get it to work. Â *edit* nevermind...someone already consolidated your posts. Edited November 26, 2009 by shinhk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warpix Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hey guys, I want to slap one of these onto my AGM GBB, anyone know if it'll fit right? Â http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index....roducts_id=4268 Â While I'm asking, anyone know the actual dimensions of the buffer tube? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hey guys, I want to slap one of these onto my AGM GBB, anyone know if it'll fit right? http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index....roducts_id=4268  While I'm asking, anyone know the actual dimensions of the buffer tube?  That stock is meant for AEG buffer tubes, which are slightly smaller in diameter than real mil-spec tubes.  The AGM's buffer tube is closer to mil-spec dimensions.  That stock WILL fit but it'll still have your typical AR stock wobble.  The AGM tube is close to mil-spec dimensions.  -Luis  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warpix Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 So does that mean that mil spec stocks will work with it? Or will that still have horrible wobble? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 So does that mean that mil spec stocks will work with it? Or will that still have horrible wobble? Â Real, mil-spec stocks will fit and those should theoretically wobble the least. Â -Luis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warpix Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Thanks guys, I just couldn't find out what dimension the AGM buffer tube was for some reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Thanks guys, I just couldn't find out what dimension the AGM buffer tube was for some reason. Â No problem man. Â Mil-spec, remember that. Â These stocks will fit it from tightest to loosest. Â Mil, then AEG/PTS, then Commercial-Spec. Â -Luis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vilerk Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hey, does anyone have the Energy Enhanced Muzzle yet? How's the performance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mutikasha Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 PTS series stocks fit very well on AGM. I personally have a PTS MOE stock, and the wobble is minimal. If you go with a CTR, expect an even smaller wobble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FearMeansControl Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hey, does anyone have the Energy Enhanced Muzzle yet? How's the performance? Â Â Mostly negative reviews on them.. They apparently crack very quickly, AGM nozzles seem to be largely preferred over the Elements Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warpix Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I would go with: G&P WA 6.08mm Inner Barrel with Hop Up Chamber Set RA-TECH New Version Aluminum Nozzle w/NPAS RA-TECH Plastic Nozzle tip RA-TECH Bolt Stop (or LCT Bolt Stop) RA-TECH Aluminum Bolt Carrier (or 5ku Vltor Bolt Carrier, it seems to be well made) Â I can't comment on hammer and sear setup. I have G&P and it's good. Â Don't expect "plug and play". Â I've put in a... G&P Bot Catch (the stock one is rubbish) RA-TECH complete bolt assembly (NPAS and all) Â And mine is running beautifully on GHK mags and still runs good on those AGM mags(But I am trying to get away from these). I was also able to fire a full GHK mag on full auto without any noticeable FPS drop. Weather may have helped with that one though. Â Things I am looking into Thread-locking my locking pins, well, the ones that an anti rotational locking pin would replace. As well as a metal hop up chamber and a new bucking for when my current one breaks. Though my stock hop up chamber seems to be holding together fairly well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vilerk Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Mostly negative reviews on them.. They apparently crack very quickly, AGM nozzles seem to be largely preferred over the Elements  Are you talking about the Element or the Energy? I would buy the AGM, but they're out of stock everywhere.  Also, is there anyway to fix a magazine leak from the bottom without opening it up, cause I have a broken arm right now ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Things I am looking into Thread-locking my locking pins  Why not get AEG locking pins that screw together?   I've been thinking of trying these to pinch the front together to reduce wobble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoleCat Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Anyone else had problems with BB's dont manage to load into the gun quickly enough ? Â Im using the 5ku alu Bolt Carrier, and yesterday i shot some shots of on single fire and after a couple of rounds the bb got stuck between the hopup chamber and the nozzle. Â its like the mag doesnt have the speed to load a BB in the time the BCG cycles. Â But it could maybe be that the hopup chamber is too far back into the outter barrel ? Â anyway, when this happens, it vents all gas from the mag, wich is kinda annoying to say the least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mutikasha Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Try using a different kind of bbs. People had this issue with several kinds of bbs. I'm using xtreme, madbull and g&G bbs. 1 in 1000 jams like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoleCat Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 yea im using G&G .20g  i shot 2-3 mags yesterday, and it didnt jam once.  so it seems like its just bad luck, but should be able to avoid it somehow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mutikasha Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Try using .25 g bbs, you may get much better results with little or no jamming. I know this is pretty dificult if you are using stock hop setup because the hop is only sufficient for maximum .25 g bb, but if you upgrade it a little (DIY upgrades + new bucking) you can go with .25 to even .40 g bbs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoleCat Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) Internally i have installed a 5ku CNC hopup, using the old parts of the AGM. Â ive changed outer barrel to a 5ku WA style, as i have a G&P WA Vltor Upper. Â Im also using a 5ku Vltor alu Carrier, with the 5ku NPAS and the original AGM nozzle. Â im gona try the G&G 0.25 wich is the ones i will be using in the summer. Â currently looks like this: Â I hope i can eliminate the problem, one concern of mine is that the Hop UP unit is too far into the outer barrel so the space for the nozzle to pickup the BB is to long before it reaches the hopup unit. But i dont fully understand the mechanism to accuratly say that its the problem. Â Ive created a picture showing how the bb gets stuck between the hopup and the nozzle (excuse my poor paint skills): Edited November 29, 2009 by PoleCat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luis21 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Nice gun and cool cat. You can try putting a spring in front of the hop-up unit so that it gets pushed back towards the loading nozzle. What recoil spring are you using? Â -Luis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoleCat Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) Im using the standard AGM recoil spring, and buffertube, the one that came with the gun. Â the spring is actually a good idea, some round spacers could also work, but as it fires ,and damn accurate i might add, atm i need to make sure that its the problem, if i push the hopupunit further into the upper, it might break the nozzle if it comes in contact with it way to soon. Â il try to switch back to the regular AGM bolt carrier, to see if its the fast cycle or maybe it doesnt fit as well as it should. Edited November 30, 2009 by PoleCat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mutikasha Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Try with other brand of bbs first before doing any modding to the hop unit placement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonny2400 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Really wish someone somewhere would sit down and make  a/ Mags that are light weight, and do not leak..........!!  b/ Mags that are light weight and can take a Co2 powerlet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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