beretta Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Well with an AB mosfet in mine the piston stops in the pull forward position, so that kinda says its geared normally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warpix Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Odd, It seems to be pre-cocking for me, its either that or the motor in the Ares Tavor is miles ahead of my CA36, which is very likely. Â And why are you able to use your spring release after single shot? Shouldn't firing on single pull the piston back and then let go, letting all the tension off, then stop? Â I wish it wasn't raining right now, it's be nice to double check this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrKalinka Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 There is no function in the gearbox that prevents overspin, but semi decreases it more than auto does. That is why you use semi to decompress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Cartman Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Odd, It seems to be pre-cocking for me, its either that or the motor in the Ares Tavor is miles ahead of my CA36, which is very likely. And why are you able to use your spring release after single shot? Shouldn't firing on single pull the piston back and then let go, letting all the tension off, then stop?  I wish it wasn't raining right now, it's be nice to double check this.  Not sure how many kinks the bevel gear has inside the ARES Tavor. I've see as little as 2 from a TM gb and as many as 5 somewhere else. The pistion can stop on any of these kink positions after one cycle.  How does the G&G SA80 when and where to stop the piston anyway?  The STAR SA80 has spring release integrated to the fire selector lever, but it is not supposed to "pre-cock". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 How does the G&G SA80 when and where to stop the piston anyway? Â Hristo suggested earlier that it's to do with the cam on the back of the sector gear and the way it interfaces with the cut off lever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Just to counter the super clean and God forbid "Magpulized" or "Eotechized" Tavor look, here's how I like it most: authentic IDF. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Clean . Nice mid-point sling attachment. Zahal, perchance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Sling is Zahal, as is sling attachment, secured by tape . Authentic, believe it or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinis Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I need to get me one of these Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Puding Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Just to counter the super clean and God forbid "Magpulized" or "Eotechized" Tavor look, here's how I like it most: authentic IDF.   what model red dot would this be?  and has anyone found a stand in outerbarrel extension with a +14 thread for the tar 21? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beretta Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) It looks like a real mepro 21 sight Puding.  But i think theres a thread in the technical forum where a guy is making replica's from these, http://www.supremeco.com.hk/catalog/images/oko_8s.jpg  Oh, and you can use those WA GBB style barrels that come in 3 pieces for the expension. its cheap enough for the entire barrel. My one is from an FN2000., Edited March 4, 2010 by beretta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Puding Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Oh, and you can use those WA GBB style barrels that come in 3 pieces for the expansion. its cheap enough for the entire barrel. My one is from an FN2000., Â will have to keep trying the gbb versions i had in my bits box where a -14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Regarding the red dot, yes, it is realsteel Mepro 21. Â BTW, I have tried a lower rail made for realsteel Tavor (http://www.zahal.org/products/tavor-picatinny-rail). The grooves do not fit ARES handguard (spacing is slightly different). It is slightly annoying but can be fixed with a little dremel work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I've examined the sector gear. It is an ordinary sector gear, thus no precocking on this AEG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBond Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Regarding the red dot, yes, it is realsteel Mepro 21. BTW, I have tried a lower rail made for realsteel Tavor (http://www.zahal.org/products/tavor-picatinny-rail). The grooves do not fit ARES handguard (spacing is slightly different). It is slightly annoying but can be fixed with a little dremel work.  Thanks I was wondering about that rail... do you have a pic of it assembled ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hristo Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Sorry, no pics, I took it off. It was impossible to remove the grip once the rail was on the gun and that made it too much hassle for my taste. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBond Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Good thing it was only 14$ ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ycare Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) Finally tried it at a game yesterday, and boy that gun is a killer !  Great accuracy, and great range (best I've seen), real nice ! My favorite by far. My only real complain is the mag release lever that I hit several times without even realizing it, and it has an added spring in it, so I can't even imagine without that... It's just so close to the shooting hand that I dropped my mag 4 times in one day, and it's a DE PMAG, so not easy to find back... I probably need to get used to be careful to that.  Also, as soon as I started tuning it, I had to add a little rubber under the hopup wheel or else it wouldn't keep in the right position and would "jump" for max to min. Once piece of cling wrap added under that and it was perfect, tight fit and tight tuning.  Aside of that, awesome, great look and a pleasure to use, plus everyone wanted to "have a look" at it  A few pics of this beauty, with a Hurricane 552, holosight is wtg ^^   Edited March 15, 2010 by Ycare Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Disajim Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Piston broke yesterday  This is the list of replaced parts in my tavor: Motor (original died) Piston head (I put a head with bearings to reduce tension) Nozzle (leaking air) Hop up rubber (pierced by the "nub") Piston (broke because of the rof... maybe)  I think those are the 5 parts that everyone is going to change in this gun sooner or later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shinden Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Disajim, Â What brand of parts did you replace the problematic parts with? Then again, were you using an upgraded Tavor with Lipoly battery? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBond Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 My only real complain is the mag release lever that I hit several times without even realizing it, and it has an added spring in it, so I can't even imagine without that... It's just so close to the shooting hand that I dropped my mag 4 times in one day, and it's a DE PMAG, so not easy to find back... I probably need to get used to be careful to that. Â Btw just so some people can benefit, I didn't have a spare spring laying around and cut it down to do the usual mod for the mag release, but i did have a spare CA36 hop-up/inner barrel tension spring and not only did it work beautifully, it was the perfect width and lenght, no additional mod needed to fit it right in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Disajim Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Disajim,  What brand of parts did you replace the problematic parts with? Then again, were you using an upgraded Tavor with Lipoly battery?   Replacements, nothing special.  CA Torque Up Motor  Shooter (Ares) Ventilated Piston head with bearings King Arms Nozzle (M4A1/M16A2) G&G Cold Resistant Hop up Bucking CA Piston   No upgrades. Stock spring with a 11.1v lipo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beretta Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 What's your opnion on the KA nozzle? was gonna buy a load of different brands and see which was the best., Â also, why classic army piston? there pretty poor really., Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 (edited) Here's what's new in mine - none of it was essential, but the GB was opened due to concerns over poor compression:  Guarder clear hop rubber (stock one was thin, flimsy and not well moulded) Prometheus M16A2 airseal nozzle (stock one was poorly moulded and possibly leaky) Prometheus POM bearing piston head (stock one was very basic and lacked vents) Kanzen 8mm bearings (just because the gearbox was open - I'm sure the stock bushings etc are fine) G&P M160 motor (I burned out the stock one - which was my fault)  The only other thing I'd like to replace is the piston, but I wasn't confident in selecting one which would fit without some work.  The trigger response and ROF from the motor are both really, really impressive - and I'm only running a 7.4v lipo. If nothing else, this exercise has made me want a G&P M160 in all my AEGs . Thanks to Hristo for the recommendation  All in all, I wasn't really impressed with anything inside the Tavor. Plus, the captive motor design and integral hop are difficult to work with and seem to offer no advantages. Still, it's not the TSI  I think if someone really wants a Tavor, as long as they buy the Ares with their eyes open to its faults it's an OK investment, but I've certainly swung back towards the Real Sword Type 97 as my primary (although it now has competition in my newly acquired Type 97B ) Edited March 19, 2010 by The Reptile House Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davidson Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Btw just so some people can benefit, I didn't have a spare spring laying around and cut it down to do the usual mod for the mag release, but i did have a spare CA36 hop-up/inner barrel tension spring and not only did it work beautifully, it was the perfect width and lenght, no additional mod needed to fit it right in. Â Â I used the semi hard foam that comes in alot of packages. Cut off what you need then stuff it up behind the mag release. Trim down as needed. Â Very cheap and easy to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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