KWP Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I think you#re describing the "old" escord system there. But anyways, how much would a "good" WE clone be? $200? $250? and you'll have to add like 100bucks on upgrades? (or 50 or whatever) It just doesn't make much sense. It not like the whole WA clones thing. The We is just $350 and not around $800 like a WA. That, I believe, was Daytonagun's (Justin's) first M4, based off of the escort system. assuming these were the videos you were talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGbrs0MOK7Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIEy0yNZaHI...feature=related hope that helps. Also, the WELL M4 CQB clone pictures seen on airsoftcanada are almost for sure WA system. You can see the full bolt and piston exactly like the WA. In fact, it looks very, very similar to the AGM in the fact that the bolt is black and the piston is cheapo white plastic. AGM, WELL (most likely), and dboy/boyi ---- cloning (or have cloned) the WA system. JG (most likely) --------------------------- cloning the WE system. Even so, if JG clones the SCAR or M4, its prices better be bloody cheap. The system really doesn't need a clone.. especially the SCAR. its going to be affordable enough. Cannot wait. Why not? You can buy 4 AGMs clones for the price of 1 WA original. Did anybody see that coming? And along with the AGM came and come customized after market parts for just as cheap. If WE products are really 100% Taiwanese as they claim, I can see how Chinese clone factories could take a real deep dive with their price tag. And yes, many thanks for the video links, it's what I meant. Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Does the WE SCAR GBB have the same bolt carrier and valve assembly? I'd like to be able to swap out complete bolt carrier and valve set-ups between my WE M4 and the SCAR- would that be possible? If it were then I could also stock a common set of spares for both rifles (i.e. M4 and Scar) which would be very cool. Link to post Share on other sites
L4byr1nth Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 How can the Chinese possibly beat a full upgraded out of the box WE M16A3 for £299.00 in the U.K.? Sure, they'll sell it for £150.00. But then what will it need? New internals, new body, new barrel, new HOP...? Ben. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 How can the Chinese possibly beat a full upgraded out of the box WE M16A3 for £299.00 in the U.K.? Sure, they'll sell it for £150.00. But then what will it need? New internals, new body, new barrel, new HOP...? Ben. Be be honest, I can't see it working either. Link to post Share on other sites
Nazio Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I would say. Wait for final product. Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Clone GBBs are pointless people still need mags and gas. Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Clone GBBs are pointless people still need mags and gas. What? I have an AGM M4 that performs better than a WA out of the box, provided the mags are different. Not to mention to overhaul a WA M4 would still cost triple if not more than an AGM with GHK mags and a RATech NPAS bolt. Link to post Share on other sites
Carter Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Wow this thread got off topic... So WETTI, any word on release date? Link to post Share on other sites
CALLAHAN_88 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Yea stay on topic! If you want to talk clones do it some were else. Wetti please let us now the date! Link to post Share on other sites
4boost Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 New video: Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 What gas is this running? Were is the release date in HK? Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Sounds incredible! Looking forward to its release Link to post Share on other sites
Revenge Seeker Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hmmm... looks impressive but I don't think I like how the bolt cycling looks. Its not as cool as the M4 GBB's only because of the SCAR's design. That's just IMO. Back on my quest for my dream gbb. Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 AGM, WELL (most likely), and dboy/boyi ---- cloning (or have cloned) the WA system. JG (most likely) --------------------------- cloning the WE system. Even so, if JG clones the SCAR or M4, its prices better be bloody cheap. The system really doesn't need a clone.. especially the SCAR. its going to be affordable enough. Cannot wait. AGM,WELL and Boyi are WA clones i saw them with my own eyes all 3 models (except Boyi was just starting but i saw the original WA there. Hopefully JG will at least give us either 1) Cheaper Magazines, 2) Higher Capacity Magazines, or 3) both Jing Gong is the most expensive ACM brand out there, if anyone is thinking they would sell it cheap dream on, Metal bodies for like $160-$180 USD in hong kong (RSOV example) haha what a joke while you can get STEEL body kalash models for $100-$110 USD (RSOV example) *i dont mean to hijack this thread and will not post other things here other than the subject, just thought wanted to correct/confirm this one. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hahaha! I can't believe we've got people looking at old Escort conversions built into DBoys M4s and then TELLING OTHER PEOPLE that means the new DBoys gas gun will be a copy of the WE design? Honestly, it's no surprise that there are so many retarded rumours on the internet. Geez, folks. Try fto filter what you see through your brain before regurgitating it eh? Link to post Share on other sites
Abyssal Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hi, does somebody know if this gun has a 14mm negative or positive thread? thank you! Link to post Share on other sites
Roecar Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think Evike is selling the CO2 version for $260 in black and tan. I definitely am thinking about selling 1 or my 2 AEGs for the CO2 version. Link to post Share on other sites
RedSpartan Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I see Evike has them as well. But they have the Green Gas version listed as shooting over 400 FPS with .2s. I need it shooting under 400 FPS with Green Gas and .2s. Is Evike mistaken about the FPS, or does it really shoot that hot? If it does, will you sell parts to downgrade the FPS? New bolt carrier group perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Does the WE SCAR AWSS have the same bold carrier and valve assembly as the WE M4 GBB? Link to post Share on other sites
Hanger Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Most GBB M4 I've tested shoots over 400 FPS that includes both KJW and WE. Link to post Share on other sites
chris u'5 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Hi, does somebody know if this gun has a 14mm negative or positive thread? thank you! The WE M4 is positive so I would think the SCAR would be the same. Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 The WE M4 is positive so I would think the SCAR would be the same. The SCAR has 14mm negative threading Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Does the WE SCAR AWSS have the same bold carrier and valve assembly as the WE M4 GBB? similar system, but different bolt shape (foldable stcok, no buffer tube here). steel nozzle(CO2 locking type) same as M4's, valve assembly shorter than M4's. Link to post Share on other sites
WETTI Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 dont forget to read this^^^ however, JG is cloning the WE. Yeah right!! Let's just wait & see, OK ppl? I would love to see someone trying to clone our system (well someone did tried already & now they have 500 units sitting in the warehouse with no where to go...) Our lawyers are kinda bored out of their heads & would like to see some actions.... Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Is the Recoil sharper? Hmm Link to post Share on other sites
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